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Two Guns Per Person
Slate ^ | October 13, 2017 | Doug Pennington

Posted on 10/14/2017 10:46:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A simple, constitutional proposal that protects both Americans’ lives and liberty.

The 27 words of the Second Amendment don’t say anything about how many guns someone can own in America. Neither do the other 7,564 words in the Constitution. Yes, this is a facile point to make. A lot of things—including rights, responsibilities, and government powers we take for granted—aren’t itemized in the Constitution. While saying you can’t find something doesn’t necessarily mean anything, conservatives use this trick all the time. Consider marriage equality, a precept protected by the Constitution’s Equal Protection and Due Process clauses. That’s the case even though the Constitution doesn’t include the words, There shall be no discrimination by government in recognition of any marriage on the basis of race or sexual orientation.

This means a couple of things in the gun debate. First, the Constitution and its text are a starting point, not an end point, for determining what gun regulations federal, state, and local governments may pass. Second, though the Constitution’s open-ended provisions are rooted in the time of their drafting, the task of understanding them and applying them has been left to later generations. Federal courts have taken tentative, though momentous, steps in recent years to decide what the Second and 14th amendments mean in terms of gun laws. But in the wake of the slaughter in Las Vegas, some commentators appear to have lost their minds about just how far the courts have gone. No, we don’t have to repeal the Second Amendment to pass strong gun laws—Section III of the Supreme Court’s landmark 2008 Heller decision is all you have to read to figure that out....

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To: SuperLuminal
Except that if the shooting starts 9 isnt very useful. Sure, many people have 9mm but mostly as a defense round for a pistol. Its not something anyone knowingly would take for offense purposes if they had a choice so 223, 308, 12, or something is going to be more useful and therefor valuable. Of course most people would try to avoid fighting but still need to eat so rounds that help with that would be more valuable. 9mm and a pistol doesnt work well for big game and is too big for small game which argues for 22, different 12s, and maybe a few boxes of 20 and 410s.

If planning for currency purposes, I would suggest several thousand on top of your pile yet because neither in RL nor in this theoretical future does 1000 22s last very long.

81 posted on 10/15/2017 10:27:58 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: Bonemaker
Good on ya! I’ve had guys tell me their wives had no objection to guns but wouldn’t allow ammunition in house.Nay, nay.

One of the two biggest goals in my life was to marry and have a family but I would never compromise on my lifestyle as to hunting, fishing, and firearms. My wife knew back then that if she had lied to me and tried to change the rules after we married I would have left. I do not believe in divorce but lying to me before marriage also means she would have lied when taking the vows so the marriage would have been void.

My wife carries a compact 45ACP with a ten-round mag. She loves it and is very good with it. While she loves shooting she doesn't like to hunt but a couple of years ago she did have to draw and kill a skunk up on our property in northern Michigan. One shot, one kill, and it was running toward her.

82 posted on 10/15/2017 10:49:54 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: ForYourChildren

“Each individual needs no less than five types of guns - yes, 5.”

I’ve heard of a guy who is leaving behind for his 6 ‘blood kin’ a total of 5 handguns and 5 longguns to EACH of them...


83 posted on 10/15/2017 10:59:49 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: OldMissileer

My wife every couple of years, just out of the blue, she asks me: “Do you have enough ammo?”

Of course the answer is always, “Well, come to think of it, I do need some more.” And every now and then, “I may need another gun for that ammo.”

Bless her heart.


84 posted on 10/15/2017 11:47:29 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: litehaus

“I’ve heard of a guy who is leaving behind for his 6 ‘blood kin’ a total of 5 handguns and 5 longguns to EACH of them...”

Hmmm, someone been talking about me?


85 posted on 10/15/2017 11:49:06 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Two Guns Per Person

Well, at least it's consistent with the "progressive" approach to voting - only two votes per person!

86 posted on 10/15/2017 12:23:46 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike.")
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To: Retain Mike

I’m blessed-or maybe cursed with memory. I can give the serial no of most of my guns from memory. If you nave a 03-A3 3433120, it’s my old one, I sold it in 1980. I have 02029B70 in my safe as well.

I can also recall all of my high school girlfriends phone numbers and I’ll be 61 in the spring.


87 posted on 10/15/2017 1:14:16 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: ForYourChildren

I can take a different rifle each morning of deer season and have a few left over and all would be entirely appropriate for deer hunting, and all are sighted in as we speak.

As one man’s opinion, 5000 is just a start for ammo, not a goal.


88 posted on 10/15/2017 1:16:13 PM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: JayVee

Great historical point. In a defense setting, no one knows where it comes from.


89 posted on 10/15/2017 1:22:03 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: gnarledmaw

Good points...


90 posted on 10/15/2017 1:55:04 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't be a Fudd.
91 posted on 10/15/2017 2:42:19 PM PDT by Simon Green
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To: nobamanomore

You may need counseling, but at 61 why bother?


92 posted on 10/15/2017 4:08:25 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will agree to those terms, so long as my two guns are the General Electric GAU-8 30mm, hydraulically-driven, electrically-fired autocannon and the Royal Ordnance L7 105mm rifled tank gun.


93 posted on 10/15/2017 11:46:50 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: nobamanomore

“I can also recall all of my high school girlfriends phone numbers and I’ll be 61 in the spring.”

I can only say this - I hope you, and they, have no regrets....


94 posted on 10/17/2017 10:27:39 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I can totally get with this.

My choice for number 1:

My choice for number two:


95 posted on 10/17/2017 10:31:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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