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To: hosepipe
The Civil War was about State rights... not slavery.

It was about the rights of certain states to deny human beings rights ascribed by the founders of the nation to all men ... rights which no state or states, according to those founders, possessed. As such, it was one hundred percent about slavery. Read the declarations of secession if you're not convinced.

If you're still of that opinion, ask yourself what your first course of action would be if your state passed a law enslaving or proscribing you. Then tell me about state's rights.

12 posted on 04/02/2015 4:41:10 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
As such, it was one hundred percent about slavery.

BS, my little 1st grade teacher.

13 posted on 04/02/2015 4:46:30 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

If you’re still of that opinion, ask yourself what your first course of action would be if your state passed a law enslaving or proscribing you. Then tell me about state’s rights.


IF..... we had a republic I could move.. unless already enslaved.. in degrees..
are workers enslaved?..

States should demand to be able to enslave they citizens..
like: Mass, Conn, NY, NJ, Penn, Calif, Wash, Ore already do..
and even force them to join UNIONS.. slavery is in degrees.. from Serf to political prisoner..

The American Constitution FAILED to limit Federal Givernment..
Which was it’s entire purpose for existing..
Failing THAT it became worthless.. WORTHLESS.. toilet paper..

For decades americans have elected people that despise the Constitution..
Little wonder it’s worthless... most in Congress TODAY despise it..


18 posted on 04/02/2015 4:57:29 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
It was about the rights of certain states to deny human beings rights ascribed by the founders of the nation to all men ...

Yet that's exactly what the Founders, as the representatives of ALL the States, agreed to when they signed the Constitution.

If their descendants in the northern states decided they no longer wanted to honor their promise to perform, they should have changed the Constitution in the manner which it was intended...NOT at the end of a gun.

44 posted on 04/03/2015 3:50:27 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Lincoln siad the war wasn’t about slavery. But what did he know?


46 posted on 04/03/2015 4:59:43 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Let's mention a few lil factoids all but forgotten through political correctness.

First, a few of the cruelest slave owners...were black men.
The North also held slaves.
White slaves at one time in America outnumbered black slaves.
Several in the North, I believe one of them was named Abraham Lincoln, kicked around the idea of recolonizing the blacks to the Caribbean and or Africa. They believed the black would not assimilate into society.

Slavery was bad, should never have happened. Fact is, probably would never have happened if blacks in Africa did not first sell conquer rival tribes into slavery.

Uncomfortable for some Yankees I realize, but can't erase history no matter how hard ya try.

141 posted on 06/01/2015 10:45:30 AM PDT by servantboy777
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