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1 posted on 07/21/2013 9:20:29 AM PDT by Ira_Louvin
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I agree to the extent I believe (strongly) that Ted Cruz would be a very good Vice Presidential candidate.

For Palin.

Let Palin take the lead, and give Ted Cruz four years to sort out whether he is.

Palin / Cruz 2016.


2 posted on 07/21/2013 9:23:11 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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"And then as a legal matter, others can worry about that. I’m not going to engage[.]"

It's pretty clear you should engage, Ted. Because it's abundantly clear you're not American-born. I, for one, won't vote for you
3 posted on 07/21/2013 9:24:39 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: Ira_Louvin

After the 2 term obama birth mystery, I think precedent says it doesn’t matter WHERE a presidental nominee is born. Or where he/she grows up and has been raised.


4 posted on 07/21/2013 9:25:33 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Ira_Louvin

One more reason we should not have let The Usurper prevail in his campaign to suppress the Natural Born Citizen qualification.

The flood gates open...

Like Ted Cruz just fine, and in his defense, his father naturalized so it’s not the same situation as BHO Sr.

But his is a background of less than obvious attachment to the U.S., no matter how good he is on policy.

There are millions of people who do meet all the requirements. No need to make exceptions. Look what happened when we did.


5 posted on 07/21/2013 9:27:32 AM PDT by Regulator
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Why did Congress need to make Winston Churchill an honorary US citizen if his mother was also an American?


6 posted on 07/21/2013 9:28:56 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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President Obama has been hounded by critics who contend he was born outside the U.S. and, therefore, ineligible to win the White House.

No, that O's father was not a citizen, therefore he isn't a "natural born" citizen. If both Cruz's parents were citizens, then he qualifies.

8 posted on 07/21/2013 9:31:58 AM PDT by marron
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To: Ira_Louvin

I think the real issue is that Obama had dual citizenship at birth (regardless of where he was born), since BO Sr was a British citizen, and that is the British rule on such things. Our Founders did not want someone with divided loyalties. If Cruz had Canadian citizenship at birth due to being born there, then I would say the same thing about him.

On the other hand, it’s obvious that Ted Cruz loves America as much as Obama hates it.


10 posted on 07/21/2013 9:36:06 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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Kinda interesting that a useless post like this shows up at FR just when Cruz is about to make more news against McConnell and Reid with the debt ceiling battle coming up.


12 posted on 07/21/2013 9:38:05 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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He has the same level of claim to natural-born citizenship as Ubama allegely has.

Maybe a little more, since Ubama's allged mother was 17-years old at the time of his birth.

13 posted on 07/21/2013 9:39:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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“My mother was born in Wilmington, Delaware. She’s a U.S. citizen, so I’m a U.S. citizen by birth,” Cruz told ABC

Unless a person can be born via asexual reproduction, BOTH parents impact the nationality of the child.

14 posted on 07/21/2013 9:39:08 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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So?

No problem. We trade Canada New England, NJ Cities and NYC for Alberta.

Problem solved.

19 posted on 07/21/2013 9:43:51 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Ira_Louvin; Cold Case Posse Supporter; butterdezillion; Red Steel; rxsid; melancholy; ...

Pinging a few names to this very distressing statement by Cruz.

I am very disgusted. Foreign national father, born on foreign soil, says because he’s a US citizen he’s eligible for president.

I am beyond digusted.

He could be the best conservative constitutionalist in the last 200 years but he is NOT a NBC and NOT eligible and this wilfull ignorance on his part is a huge character flaw! Self interest! He can serve his country by being a representative, Senator or Governor!

I’m spitting mad. He’s basically saying that 0buttatollah is a NBC (or would be if his parents/ birth location were known and he had on US citizen parent and was born in another country!) WHAT UTTER CRAP! His statement legitimizes the fraudster in chief! WHAT THE H***????

Why is he saying this? He’s not stupid. Paid off? Trying to goad 0buttatollah? Thinks since one non-NBC is president and no one says a peep now the gate’s wide open now for all and sundry?


22 posted on 07/21/2013 9:45:26 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Show us your Certificate of Citizenship, Ted. U.S. Citizenship to individuals born abroad with U.S. Citizen parent(s) is not automatic. An application with certain terms and conditions must be met before a Certificate is issued.

See http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/n-600instr.pdf Form N-600 Application for Certificate of Citizenship.


23 posted on 07/21/2013 9:45:50 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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Without making an argument either way, I would say that he has recent precedent to cite.

He should just hide his birth certificate and claim he was born in Honolulu.


25 posted on 07/21/2013 9:46:41 AM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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The facts are far from clear, Mr. Cruz.

If your father is found to have thrown off his allegiance to Cuba by expatriating as well as the collapse to communism of the regime to which that allegiance was owed, then there would have been no possibility of Cuba having claimed sovereignty over you at birth.

If your birth in Canada did not result in a claim of sovereignty over you by Canada, then you're possibly good on that.

Your mother was a US citizen, so no questions arise there.

But, again, the facts are far from clear. And, it's not up to you to decide.

26 posted on 07/21/2013 9:46:48 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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I like Ted Cruz and I voted for Ted Cruz as my Senator.

The issue of who is a “Natural Born Citizen” has never been actually been legally defined as I understand it.

Here are the opinions I have heard on the matter:

1. Born in the US, you are automatically a US citizen, except in very rare cases. IE, a child to diplomats and borne on embassy grounds.

2. Some say that both parent must be Americans at the time of the Child’s birth.

3. Some say that as long as you never had to be naturalized to become a citizen, you are a natural born citizen. I believe this is the case with Cruz.

If we have a lawyer out there who can provide an opinion, I would love to hear it.


33 posted on 07/21/2013 9:49:44 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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Cruz states “he is a citizen” and indeed he is.

Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, December 22, 1970, to a US citizen mother and a Cuban citizen father. He is a natural born citizen of Canada (Canadian Citizenship Act, R.S.C. 1970, c. C-19, s. 5(1,3))

Cruz is a naturalized US citizen (8 U.S.C. § 1401(g))

A citizen is eligible at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, thereafter only a natural born citizen is eligible. A naturalized citizen is most assuredly not a natural born citizen.

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States. U.S. Const. art. II, § 1, cl 5.


54 posted on 07/21/2013 10:02:31 AM PDT by Ray76 (An armed society is a polite society.)
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I have been amazed by the number of people who simply ASSUMED that there are “procedures” in place to vet Presidential candidates. Even educated people. There are NONE. There is no legislation, there are no questionnaires, there are no interviews with the FBI or CIA. Nothing. For the “vetting” of Soetoro, we were entirely dependent on the personal integrity and intellectual honesty of Nancy Pelosi.

The matter is 100% in the hands of the electorate. If they don’t make it impossible for a non-citizen (Soetoro), let alone a non-NBC, to be “elected” “President,” there is absolutely no recourse.

Obviously, if you don’t want some part of the Constitution to be a dead letter, you must pass enabling legislation, and follow it up with unrelenting political pressure for enforcement. Nobody has done any such thing when it comes to the usurpation of the Presidency by a non-citizen—i.e., Soetoro.

Oh, well. Maybe Soetoro really is Frank Marshall Davis, Jr., which makes him a NBC.

Given his record, I will vote for Ted Cruz over ANY candidate of the baby-murdering party, even one born before cameras on the steps of the U.S. Capitol to two descendants of passengers on the Mayflower.


60 posted on 07/21/2013 10:06:40 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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Sen. Ted Cruz rejected questions Sunday over his eligibility to be president, saying that although he was born in Canada “the facts are clear” that he’s a U.S. citizen.

It's kind of discouraging to see this kind of comment.

AFAIK, nobody is arguing that Cruz is not a US citizen. The discussion is about whether he's a "natural-born citizen."

67 posted on 07/21/2013 10:15:04 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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The Texas senator was born in Calgary,where his mother and father were working in the oil business.

Ted Cruz for Prime Minister of Canada in 2015!

71 posted on 07/21/2013 10:19:33 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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