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1 posted on 02/16/2013 9:30:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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There really should be a rule that if you are going to disseminate information be it a quote, a picture or a fact it should be accompanied by sufficient citation allowing the average reader to verify its veracity.

If this was the case not one newspaper, including this one, could print anything. And the democrat party would be shut down.


2 posted on 02/16/2013 9:37:30 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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It doesn't take a genius to understand why gun owners don't want to be on a government list somewhere. We don't trust you, leftists. We KNOW you want to confiscate our guns. The fact that you're currently unable to do so, doesn't mean you won't stop trying. If the left gets gun confiscation, you'll be the first targeted if your name is on a list. Mandatory, universal background checks mean de facto registration, and registration means eventual confiscation. Does anyone believe the record of who had a background check just disappears?
3 posted on 02/16/2013 9:45:43 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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This guy is a clown and his “reasoning” in this piece screams liberal agent provocateur.


4 posted on 02/16/2013 9:49:50 PM PST by Dick Bachert ("Those who hammer their swords into plowshares will likely plow for those who do not." B.Franklin)
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There is overwhelming support for bans on assault rifles, high-capacity magazines

I just love how liberals just pull this crap out of their @ss and print it as fact. They seem comfortable that no one will challenge them for any sort of evidence for the claims.

What is distressing is that this is from a Grand Junction paper? That is some fine Colorado country. I lived in CO for six years growing up. What the hell has happened to that fine state?

5 posted on 02/16/2013 9:51:12 PM PST by doorgunner69
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"There is overwhelming support for bans on assault rifles, high-capacity magazines and universal background checks."

"There really should be a rule that if you are going to disseminate information be it a quote, a picture or a fact it should be accompanied by sufficient citation allowing the average reader to verify its veracity."

So, shouldn't the author provide said sufficient citation that he demands of others? Or would that be asking a bit to much of these retards?
6 posted on 02/16/2013 9:51:12 PM PST by frankenMonkey (this space for rent)
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History teaches that the road to gun confiscation is also the road to extermination of a whole people.

This Hoffman is a seig-heiling stooge of the MarxoFascists and needs to be treated as such.

The time for talk is over.

You cannot reason with the unreasonable - so let’s get this inevitable fight and war going and get this over with. We’re waiting for you clowns to make that last mistake.


9 posted on 02/16/2013 9:54:13 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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The author needs to get his med balance checked.

He admits there may be to many criminals but thinks the way to address the issue is to take away the rights and defenses of law abiding citizens.

This guy must be a riot to watch in the kitchen, when a knife is needed.
Does he pick up a butter knife to cut the roast?

Ahh.. he probably orders out so he doesn’t have to get his head in a fuss over thinking about where food comes from and how it is dispatched and prepared.

Perhaps he is a vegan..
Wait! they still use sharp and pointy implements to process that too!

Does this guy quake when he shaves? Those razors are pretty sharp and its right there beside your jugular!

I suppose he doesn’t have that problem, upon further refection, I have realized this fellow doesn’t have a hair!


10 posted on 02/16/2013 9:54:19 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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My goodness Jim, Life is terminal, but stupidity robs you of the brilliant bits along the way.


11 posted on 02/16/2013 9:56:24 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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It is doubted that anyone or any side will claim that our current system is functioning.

Why not? No system is perfect but ours works pretty well (in spite of the demonetization that the left attempts). Punishing law-abiding people because of the actions of law-breaking people is unacceptable and I reject it.

15 posted on 02/16/2013 10:14:49 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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There is overwhelming support for bans on assault rifles, high-capacity magazines and universal background checks.

So what? That "overwhelming support" may very well be the fictitious creation of statist pollsters and media.

Even if were a true measure of public sentiment, so what? It would be shallow, uninformed sentiment ginned up by the lies of the statist media, and therefore an unsuitable basis for policy.

Even if it is a true measure of public sentiment AND were based on reasons those holding those opinions have considered carefully and could articulate, as opposed to being based on the lies of the statist media, so what?

Are we now in the business of abrogating civil rights based on a plurality of public opinion? Would it be OK to bring back slavery if a majority of the public wanted it? No, there's a Constitutional amendment prohibiting it. Would it be OK to bring back segregation if a majority of the public wanted it? No, SCOTUS has said it violates the Constitution.

Why are liberals so stupid, and why do the factors they'd never accept as justifying policies they disagree with ample support for ones they like?

16 posted on 02/16/2013 10:16:39 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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As I hear more and more Democrat senators/representatives, they have zeroed in on those measures: get rid of “assault” weapons (whatever they deem them to be), high capacity magazines and “universal” background checks.

All of them are now centered on those three, so the word is out to them to stick with these three and get them through the Senate and the House.

18 posted on 02/16/2013 10:23:56 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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26 posted on 02/16/2013 10:39:35 PM PST by TigersEye (The irresponsible should not be leading the responsible.)
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The “media” needs a good whippin’.

They misquote, they mis-spell, they make-up stuff- they LIE.

It’s about time THEY are dragged into the light and ridiculed.

The Tea Party protested CNN in 2010-in Atlanta-(of course, it was never COVERED by CNN), but, as small as the protest was (about 200), it was extremely satisfying to be a part of it.

The MEDIA is the enemy, 2nd only to Bath-House Barry Soetoro, Soros and “The Iranian of the Day”-Valerie Jarrett.


29 posted on 02/16/2013 10:44:27 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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“Jim Hoffman is a local Realtor...”

Little known fact; The National Association of Realtors leans HEAVILY liberal.

HEAVILY liberal.


33 posted on 02/16/2013 10:49:36 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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We are at a crossroads. We need to find a path toward mutual understandings and agreements...

Good luck with that.

35 posted on 02/16/2013 10:52:34 PM PST by Spirochete (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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“There really should be a rule that if you are going to disseminate information be it a quote, a picture or a fact it should be accompanied by sufficient citation allowing the average reader to verify its veracity. (...snip...) There is overwhelming support for bans on assault rifles, high-capacity magazines and universal background checks.” (No citation provided)

LOL! Now THAT’S rich.


38 posted on 02/16/2013 11:55:03 PM PST by Nita Nupress
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Isn’t Obama a straw buyer? With his operation of gun running into Mexico? What penalties are recommended for buyers such as Obama?


46 posted on 02/17/2013 4:02:51 AM PST by abclily
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“who sell literally hundreds of guns per year without any knowledge of the buyer.”

I guess the universe for those stats only included those in the Fast and Furious program orchestrated by this infernal government.


47 posted on 02/17/2013 4:05:03 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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A grand example of the hypocrisy of the left... First we find this in the article: “There really should be a rule that if you are going to disseminate information be it a quote, a picture or a fact it should be accompanied by sufficient citation allowing the average reader to verify its veracity.”

And, then, just a few lines later, we find this: “There is overwhelming support for bans on assault rifles, high-capacity magazines and universal background checks.”

Now, while I can get behind the ban on background checks (stupid writer), I don’t see any citation on the source of this ‘fact’.

The arrogance and hypocrisy of the left know no bounds.

The Second Amendment is clear in its words, and clear in its meaning. There is no room for ‘interpretation’, and there is no reason for America to accept the socialists’ plans, pogroms, or anti-Constitutional legislation.


48 posted on 02/17/2013 4:06:05 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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49 posted on 02/17/2013 4:53:29 AM PST by Perseverando (Gun control? It's really not about gun control is it? It's really about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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