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To: muawiyah; Moonman62; Kevmo
Well there are at least two problems with the extrapolation that this has any consequences for LENR.

First, you claim that Bose-Enstein condensate can be manufactured in ordinary environmental room temperatures.

But what is described in the article is not "ordinary environmental room temperature." Room temperature, yes, but hardly ordinary environment.

Second, so what? No statistical physicist that I know would claim that creating boson condensates is theoretically impossible at any temperature, and I know a lot of them, including the former condensed matter theorist I see when I shave every morning. The question is whether the conditions under which LENR has been said to occur (in one theory) would in fact be an example of a single energy eigenstate under which BEC could form. This experiment does not by any means suggest that it does. It simply says that a thing that most condensed matter theorists already accept as possible in principle can indeed be done in a lab.

Does that have any applicability to the theory that LENR is made possible via a BEC mechanism? No, because nobody claims that under the circumstances of that theory this experiment has any applicability, EXCEPT for the fact that they both happen at more or less ordinary temperature.

That's not really a big deal.

41 posted on 02/07/2013 6:48:47 PM PST by FredZarguna (These are the End Times for Dewey Crowe!)
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To: FredZarguna

That’s so evasive.


42 posted on 02/07/2013 7:02:55 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: FredZarguna

Does that have any applicability to the theory that LENR is made possible via a BEC mechanism? No, because nobody claims that under the circumstances of that theory this experiment has any applicability,
***Um, you’re the one who’s wrong this time. Y.E. Kim generated his BEC LENR theory and Sinha generated his experimental results (and theory) which show the applicability at room temperatures. So take it up with Y.E. Kim and KP Sinha, since you’re such a great physics guru. I know that guys like you try to tussle with pedestrians like me, but that’s just for show, because you’re intimidated by real physicists like KP Sinha and prefer to bully pedestrians rather than motorists. So... go ahead. Let us know how it goes.

Since you’ve put yourself into the rarefied atmosphere of people like Stephen Chu, Energy Director for the Obama administration (blech), who got his Nobel prize for removing energy from systems to create BEC’s with Lasers, take this issue up with him as well. I have no doubt that you’ll report your positive results back to us promptly. /s


43 posted on 02/07/2013 8:10:28 PM PST by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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