Ah but leftists or neo-progressives agree more with your point of view. They want government off their bodies and out of their personal lives. They want to be able to be free to ruin the culture and do things that are not moral and decent. They are using it to push left wing values that take it faraway from the traditional values the founding fathers had. Religion was an important part of the founding of the nation.
Lot of socially liberal people are not friendly to religion. They don’t like values, they want to be free to do what they want without any consequence.
No, leftists want the govt off their bodies only so far as abortion goes but up to the neck in everyone's personal lives otherwise. So do you. I abhor abortion and believe it infringes on someone else's life (aside from the fact it's murder). Therefore it's wrong and I believe there should be a law against it. But get your f'ing boots off my neck. If I choose to smoke weed, it's really none of your damned business so long as I'm not infringing on someone else's rights.
Ya, the founders believed religion was important and so do I, but this weren't no theocracy and I failed to read a piece of the Consitution that gives the feds the power to enforce your version of morality.
They are using it to push left wing values that take it faraway from the traditional values the founding fathers had
So what the hell's the difference between a leftist using the govt to push their values and you using the govt to push yours? The founders believed it was incumbent upon US to do such things, not the govt. On this, you agree with leftists in using fed powers to do things not in the Constitution.
Lot of socially liberal people are not friendly to religion. They don’t like values, they want to be free to do what they want without any consequence.
That's great, but I go to church and I still maintain you're every bit as progressive as the left and have more in commmon with the left than I ever will. I believe in the founder's libertarianism and you clearly dont. Great conversation. Thanks.