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To: hinckley buzzard

Geez, here we go again. She wasn’t shot for the mere act of stealing.

Here’s the story from the previous long thread - the three women were spotted stealing in Walmart by an employee - the employee notified the deputy/security - as they were leaving the deputy tried to stop them at which time the woman (who later died) hit him - the women exited the store to a “waiting car” (don’t know why it was “waiting” but sounded like the kids were left in it - such responsible parenting), the women got into the car and the deputy again tried to get them to stop and get out - the deputy was standing in the driver’s opened door - the driver (not the one who died) sped off dragging the deputy at which time he fired hitting the woman who had hit him - during the dragging his shoes came off - the driver did not care enough about her friend to take her to the ER but drove home where they let her “bleed out” - the woman shot was still alive and she or one of them was able to explain what had happened to a neighbor - the EMS/Fire Dept. arrived and worked on her but she died - the driver is in jail for robbery and assault with a deadly weapon aka the car and the other one in jail for robbery - the dead one has a history of theft and was court ordered not to set foot inside a Walmart - the children they brought with them on their crime spree are with relatives - Texas law is if someone dies during a crime those perpetrating the crime are all (the two women) are charged with murder - Walmart has video.


22 posted on 12/08/2012 8:14:44 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: bgill

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42 posted on 12/08/2012 8:43:21 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: bgill

1. I do not believe that shooting the driver is taught in police training as an approved method to stop a car from running over or dragging the officer. It is a way to stop a car from getting away. But if the only purpose is avoid injury to the officer himself, I doubt that any respectable police training program teaches this. Instead, I think that police officers are taught to avoid putting themselves in a position where they can be run over or dragged.

2. If I am reading this correctly, in this case the officer’s bullets did not hit the driver but instead killed a passenger who had earlier hit him and whom he was pursuing,

3. There were children in the car.

It is certainly one more criminal off the streets but I personally view the officer’s conduct as highly suspect. I think that allowing police officers to shoot and kill fleeing suspects in a case like this on the basis of the purported fear of being run over is dangerous for society and a bad thing.


50 posted on 12/08/2012 8:49:49 PM PST by Stingray51
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To: bgill
the women exited the store to a “waiting car” (don’t know why it was “waiting” but sounded like the kids were left in it - such responsible parenting), the women got into the car and the deputy again tried to get them to stop and get out - the deputy was standing in the driver’s opened door - the driver (not the one who died) sped off dragging the deputy

This is not uncommon at all in the world of the professional shoplifters. The actual perps go do their thing in the store while a driver parks on the sidewalk or firelane for a quick exit. The theft of larger items has them parking in an actual parking space close to the store facing out. They like to back into a spot like that with a car behind them so you can't see that they've put cardboard over the licence plate so the cameras don't get the plate number.

And re: kids in the car - for people like this stealing is more like shopping than anything else. They pop in, get the stuff they need and leave. They just forget that whole "pay" thing. The kids aren't shields or anything, they're just probably on their way to grandma's house so the parent(s) can go party. Happens more than you'd think in your average Walmart. That's why you really shouldn't park on the sidewalk.

66 posted on 12/08/2012 9:22:03 PM PST by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution!)
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To: bgill

She wasn’t shot for the mere act of stealing.
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Thanks, fellow Texan, for posting some facts about the incident.

It seems that many here haven’t read the earlier thread that disclosed that the dead woman assaulted the Deputy when he tried to stop the three women from leaving the store, and that the driver of the car assaulted him and endangered his life.

The lame source cited for this thread is purposely omitting facts, just like the media does, to push an agenda.

The two women accomplices left their injured friend to bleed out and die in the car in their apartment’s parking lot, instead of dropping her off at an emergency care facility nearby.


110 posted on 12/09/2012 2:50:02 AM PST by octex
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To: bgill; Morgana

We had a similar story locally, where a woman was shoplifting stuff from Home Depot. *As she was making her getaway, she crashed into two cars and fled that scene.

She ran to a commuter lot nearby and hid until some friends came and picked her up. Police spotted her getting into that car and tried to make an arrest but that’s when police say the driver rammed an unmarked police car, forcing an officer to open fire.

Witnesses say they heard four gunshots.* The shoplifter was wounded in the hand, unlike the posted story.

What frightens me, are the cops/rent-a-cops that are shooting wildly, in heavily populated/frequented shopping areas. I am grocery shopping, more than a few times a week in these types of areas, yet these yahoos have no trouble shooting a family dog, when they *feel* threatened.


116 posted on 12/09/2012 4:15:49 AM PST by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: bgill
Excellent synopsis.

I'd like to add though that the neighbor was told what happened by the woman herself. They not only left her to die, but left her conscious as well.

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For all those kiddies in the car detractors...think about it. If you're standing at the passenger door of a car, the only target you could clearly see IS the front seat passenger. This wasn't some green behind the ears guy either, he's a 26 year police veteran.

I don't usually jump up and defend cops, but I'll damn sure jump up and sefend this one.

142 posted on 12/09/2012 11:57:33 AM PST by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of secession)
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