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Let’s play a game called “Trayvon the whole bunch.”
BobOwens.com ^ | October 9, 2012 | Bob Owens

Posted on 10/10/2012 12:34:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Watch closely.

Pittsburgh High School for the Creative and Performing Arts English Teacher James Addlespurger, 50, was treating this group of young urban males the way we always hear them claim they want to be treated. He doesn’t take a defensive posture or give them a wide berth. He walked past them as honest young men, instead of ignoring them or treating them like thugs.

Here is his reward for treating them like humans.

(VIDEO AT LINK)

Addlespurger was lucky in that he survived. Colton Gleeson was murdered in a similar manner in St. Cloud just weeks ago. Hoang Nguyen was murdered in St. Louis last year.

All were victims of a barbaric practice that seems to belong exclusively to urban black teens, called the knockout game.

The goal is to knock out an unsuspecting victim with a single punch. In general, they aren’t trying to mug their victims. They aren’t trying to rape them… at least it hasn’t devolved to that yet. These thugs find amusement in hitting someone hard enough in the head that the victim’s brain slams against the side of the skull, causing the victim to lose consciousness.

They do it for fun.

The victims in every incident are uniformly white, with the exception of Hoang Nguyen who was apparently “white enough.” The perpetrators are uniformly black teens acting in small groups.

For years we’ve heard African-Americans males complain of being racially-profiled, treated like thugs, even though they’ve done nothing to deserve it.

Watch the video again.

Tell me what good treating this group of teens like respectable men did for James Addlespurger.


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: racism; trayvon; violence
Incredible.
1 posted on 10/10/2012 12:34:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good to be warned.


2 posted on 10/10/2012 12:41:19 AM PDT by rusty millet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The same thing happened in Baltimore on St Patrick’s Day to a tourist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIsPBqAQ2qk


3 posted on 10/10/2012 1:20:44 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of the attackers was arrested in connection with the brutal beating of a tourist in Baltimore after viral video of the incident showed his alleged involvement.

Link to the story:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/man-arrested-in-brutal-racial-beating-and-robbery-in-baltimore/


4 posted on 10/10/2012 1:25:11 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The poor unsuspecting teacher must have thought that he was dealing with human beings.... Big mistake.


5 posted on 10/10/2012 2:50:35 AM PDT by Bullish (The stink from this amateur regime smells all the way to Kenya.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
17 yo Jessie Smithers was charged with the murder of Colton Gleason. This was the only picture of him I could find.


6 posted on 10/10/2012 2:59:04 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here is the pertinent quote from the story:

Here is his reward for treating them like humans.

That's not a racial comment, it's a cultural one. Liberalism is the ideology that creates animals like this.

7 posted on 10/10/2012 3:03:09 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When these attacks occur, it is always a pack of rabid animals where the victim is outnumbered at least three or four times.

It is time we call these attacks what they are - terrorist attacks and they should be prosecuted accordingly.


8 posted on 10/10/2012 3:05:35 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Turbo Pig
That's not a racial comment, it's a cultural one. Liberalism is the ideology that creates animals like this.

Then explain why you don't see this behavior from any other ethnic group.

9 posted on 10/10/2012 3:13:13 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H
Then explain why you don't see this behavior from any other ethnic group.

I work at an inner city hospital; one of the top trauma hospitals in the country. Trust me, there are whites, Hispanics, Asians, etc that behave this way. They just don't get the same press. The common denominator between them all is that they live in the welfare/entitlement culture created by liberals, with complicit GOP support .

10 posted on 10/10/2012 3:20:35 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Turbo Pig

The common denominator between them all is that they live in the welfare/entitlement culture created by liberals, with complicit GOP support .

Thanks for pointing out the fact that all the government actions that are destroying our nation have been supported or allowed by the GOP. Even when they have the votes to roll back bad policies, they sit on the sidelines.


11 posted on 10/10/2012 3:40:14 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Turbo Pig

They are the most violent race by far if you check the FBI and local crime stats. Always have been and PC has just made them bolder. Anytime you hear about a convenience store being robbed you don’t even haveto guess the color of their skin. On the other hand, black men that turn to God are very different creatures.


12 posted on 10/10/2012 3:40:22 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Turbo Pig
I work at an inner city hospital; one of the top trauma hospitals in the country. Trust me, there are whites, Hispanics, Asians, etc that behave this way.

The numbers don't lie. Blacks are responsible for half the murders in this country despite being 13% of the population. See http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2009/offenses/expanded_information/data/shrtable_06.html

They just don't get the same press.

That is simply not credible. Are you asking us the believe that the MSM wouldn't be shouting it from the rooftops? Remember the MSM treatment of George Zimmerman?

13 posted on 10/10/2012 3:40:41 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Poster boys for the restoration of Constitutional carry.

I remember watching Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes quietly slip a revolver into his pocket like it was a set of keys or his wallet. That was Great Britain back when it was great.


14 posted on 10/10/2012 3:50:08 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Ken H

Plus, the newsreaderette states clearly that “this attack was unprovoked”. So the white male, normally the perpetrator of horrors against the black race, is ruled, at least in this case, a victim.

What’s the implication of that? If he’d looked at them wrong or spoken to them it would have been a “provoked attack”?


15 posted on 10/10/2012 3:54:39 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: rusty millet

There are 6 perps in the group, why do they keep saying 5?


16 posted on 10/10/2012 3:55:58 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Turbo Pig
That's not a racial comment, it's a cultural one.

This is the same crap that has been espoused for years and the very same reason it continues to devolve. It is exactly what the left has been spouting and preaching since at least the 1950's. It makes excuses that blacks are not really responsible for what they do. It is always some outer influence or force not the black themselves.

17 posted on 10/10/2012 4:01:53 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Ken H

Listen, I am not going to try and change your mind. If you want to believe that the problem is a person’s skin color, and not the content of their character, or the environment/ideology that shapes that character, you go right ahead.

I am telling you that if you do go down that path, then you are missing the big picture, and there is little hope that you will be able to add anything substantive towards finding a lasting solution.


18 posted on 10/10/2012 4:15:49 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Altura Ct.
This is the same crap that has been espoused for years and the very same reason it continues to devolve.

That statement is so full of s***, it's unbelievable. How do you come to the conclusion that that it is making an excuse for the behavior of blacks? If anything, it is an indictment of black culture, and the liberal ideology that has shaped it. People make the choice to create and live in a culture like that. Predisposition towards being a thug, a welfare queen, an angst ridden liberal have nothing to do with the color of one's skin. With the exception of people who are simply wired wrong, and there are a lot of them,. it's all about the culture your choose to live in.

If I am wrong, then explain to me the likes of Allen West, Michelle Malkin, Stacey Dash, etc. Are they simply racial anomalies; like liberals claim? Only by genetic happen chance did they turn out to have a conservative bent?

19 posted on 10/10/2012 4:24:50 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What has the teachers’ union said about all this?


20 posted on 10/10/2012 4:37:02 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Altura Ct.

It certainly is a cultural problem. Black Culture.

Can we really separate race from culture?

If this had happened to a black man the media would be screaming “hate crime”.

Yours is the 17th. post and not one mention in the story or in the Posts of what this was. A Hate Crime.

The black kids who perpetrate this type of crime were brought up on hate. They were taught by their parents, their friends, and even people like Jackson and Sharpton—supposed men of God—to hate the white man. That IS their culture.

The black people who try to bring their kids up right are defeated by being called “Uncle Tom’s” and not being “black enough”. But even those who try to bring their kids up right are caught in the culture, too many vote Obama, because he is black.

A culture problem? Yes it is, Black culture,is racism, do not let anyone tell you that blacks cannot be racist, that is a steaming pile of crap.

Anyone who has watched almost 4 years of Obma and his racism should be able to figure that out.


21 posted on 10/10/2012 4:37:24 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Turbo Pig

Yes they are anomalies. However even Allen West is a member of the Black Caucus. What about other ‘anomalies’ such as Colin ‘I Love Obama’ Powell? Or Michael ‘Hip-Hop’ Steele,or JC ‘Black News Station’ Watts just top mention a few other of so called anomalies. Race and culture are intertwined not some totally separate occurrence that just pops up out of the ground. Just because you can mention a small percentage of those who go against the grain doesn’t change anything and even most of those when push comes to shove will side with their tribe.


22 posted on 10/10/2012 4:50:21 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Venturer
Can we really separate race from culture?

I agree, indeed we can't although many in today's Marxist society insist they are totally desperate things. They make excuses. While maybe not 100% the same thing they are far from being mutually exclusive.

23 posted on 10/10/2012 4:53:22 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But wait! There is more!

487 different, documented, attacks (Including 340 murders) for being white on a public street.

http://blackracismandracehatred.blogspot.com/2012/07/275-different-documented-attacks.html


24 posted on 10/10/2012 4:58:14 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: Turbo Pig
I used the term 'ethnic group', so please be accurate about what I say. It's a much broader term than 'skin color', and it encompasses culture, character and environment.

I can't fully explain why violent crime is mostly confined to one group, but you cannot deny the fact that it is.

25 posted on 10/10/2012 5:02:54 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: monocle

Terrorism has a political purpose, it’s not just random violence like these cases.


26 posted on 10/10/2012 5:17:29 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Ken H
I used the term 'ethnic group', so please be accurate about what I say.

I said that it wasn't a racial thing (skin color, genetic make up), rather it was cultural. You debated that sentiment, then went on to state statistics that "Blacks" commit more crimes., etc. If you are arguing against it NOT being racial, then you are arguing that it IS about race. Couching it in the term "Ethnic Group" doesn't change things.

That's about as accurate as it gets.

27 posted on 10/10/2012 5:30:32 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Turbo Pig

My post wasn’t about hammering a particular race or racism. It was about telling the truth about violent crimes. I can point the finger at my own race (white) which is often more involved in white collar crimes involving corruption and fraud. If we want real change in our society we are going to have to call out PC for what it really is lying to excuse the actions of others and make them unaccountable for their own actions. If we want o move forward (no pun intended) we are going to have to be honest, stop making excuses, put our own shoulder to the wheel and hold ourselves and others accountable for their own actions.


28 posted on 10/10/2012 5:43:21 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Sherman Logan

I looked at various definitions of terrorism before posting my comment.


29 posted on 10/10/2012 6:18:28 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Turbo Pig
If I am wrong, then explain to me the likes of Allen West, Michelle Malkin, Stacey Dash, etc. Are they simply racial anomalies; like liberals claim? Only by genetic happen chance did they turn out to have a conservative bent?

Michelle Malkin's parents are both Filipino(Asian), not black.

What some people call "stereotypes", others call "recognition of statistically significant correlation". Saying that "behavior X" has strong correlation with "Group A" does not mean that all members of Group A exhibit Behavior X, or even that most do. A group being responsible for most homicides even though being a small fraction of the population says something about the group.

Sentiment is turning against "Group A". If we reach a tipping point, it will be very ugly.

30 posted on 10/10/2012 6:32:13 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Turbo Pig
Listen, I am not going to try and change your mind. If you want to believe that the problem is a person’s skin color, and not the content of their character, or the environment/ideology that shapes that character, you go right ahead.

Looking at various breeds of dogs, one notices that certain breeds have genetic predispositions to certain behaviors. The average golden retriever does not behave the same as the average pit bull. This does not mean that there are not aggressive retrievers or docile affectionate pit bulls, but average behavior is something people take into consideration.

The politically-correct meme is that the only difference between races is outward appearance, and there is no correlation with average testosterone levels or other internal characteristics which might affect outward behavior.

31 posted on 10/10/2012 6:41:53 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: Turbo Pig
I said that it wasn't a racial thing (skin color, genetic make up), rather it was cultural. You debated that sentiment,

I did no such thing. I was debating your statement that 'liberalism is the ideology that creates animals like this'. Blaming it on liberalism begs the question as to why it has not created animals like this in other ethnic groups. I went on to say in my next post that 'ethnic group encompasses culture, character and environment'.

If you are arguing against it NOT being racial, then you are arguing that it IS about race.

You defined 'racial thing' as 'skin color' and 'genetic make up'. Nothing at all to do with my use of the term 'ethnic group' which, to repeat, I defined as encompassing culture, character and environment.

32 posted on 10/10/2012 6:49:12 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: 1010RD
I remember watching Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes quietly slip a revolver into his pocket like it was a set of keys or his wallet. That was Great Britain back when it was great.

...and smoking that pipe! Tobacco fumes! The horror! - Yes, we live in sad times...

33 posted on 10/10/2012 6:52:39 AM PDT by Moltke ("I am Dr. Sonderborg," he said, "and I don't want any nonsense.")
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To: Ken H
...you don't see this behavior from any other ethnic group.

What's interesting is that you do see this behavior from white people--in the UK, where liberalism has worked the same cultural damage on the white underclass. It's not behavior limited to blacks, but is seen in any group raised and nurtured with liberal principles.

34 posted on 10/10/2012 7:38:46 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: Turbo Pig
I said that it wasn't a racial thing (skin color, genetic make up), rather it was cultural.

And I agree with you.

35 posted on 10/10/2012 8:05:12 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: PapaBear3625
Sentiment is turning against "Group A". If we reach a tipping point, it will be very ugly.

Further condensing "group A" by including gender and age group likely brings it down to 4-5% of the population committing over half of the violent crimes.

36 posted on 10/10/2012 8:43:29 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: PapaBear3625
Sentiment is turning against "Group A". If we reach a tipping point, it will be very ugly.

Further condensing "group A" by including gender and age group likely brings it down to 4-5% of the population committing over half of the violent crimes.

37 posted on 10/10/2012 8:44:52 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: PapaBear3625

Oh, come on now. You must know that genetic predispositions only apply to animals, not to humans.


38 posted on 10/10/2012 9:04:11 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane
Oh, come on now. You must know that genetic predispositions only apply to animals, not to humans.

Of course! That's why research showing that there is a gene predisposing for alcoholism, as well as genetic-caused differences in testosterone levels (link at #31) are just figments of researchers imaginations.

39 posted on 10/10/2012 9:50:06 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: PapaBear3625

Some dem congressmen also mention once in a blue moon, totally spurious research that they think makes a case for a “racist gene” among people of western european descent.

If the government believes whiteness is a genetic disability, will they give me a check? ;^)


40 posted on 10/10/2012 10:18:53 AM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: ottbmare
The murder rate in the UK is 1.2/100,000 vs 4.2/100,000 in the US. There are similar rates throughout most of Europe, including Spain (0.8/100,000) and Greece (1.5/100,000).

Socialism will most likely be the thing that sends Europe and the rest of the world into the tank, but it does not appear to have led to violent crime in European countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

41 posted on 10/10/2012 1:05:22 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

We are not speaking of the rate of violence throughout all of a nation or a continent, but in specific racial or ethnic groups. I am comparing crime in low-income urban populations, black and white, in the US and UK. Both populations are disproportionately violent and dysfunctional, and both populations are the recipients of misguided left-liberal policies. My premise is that leftist policies have had the same negative effect on both groups and that it is this effect, not some innate genetic flaw, that makes both groups produce a higher number of nonproductive and/or violent individuals than the rest of the population.

If you do not accept that left-liberal policies have had a deleterious effect on these groups, to what would you ascribe their greater tendency to crime, violence, addiction, pregnancy, and other dysfunctions? It’s certainly not racial in origin, since we see the same phenomena in white lower-class Britons as in black lower-class Americans.


42 posted on 10/10/2012 8:30:42 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: ottbmare
I would like to see the numbers for murder among low-income whites v blacks in the UK. Your contention seems at odds with Tony Blair's remarks and the statement from the Home Office minister back in 2007:

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Blair blames spate of murders on black culture

· Political correctness not helping, says PM
· Community leaders react angrily to comments

Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture. His remarks angered community leaders, who accused him of ignorance and failing to provide support for black-led efforts to tackle the problem.

One accused him of misunderstanding the advice he had been given on the issue at a Downing Street summit.

Black community leaders reacted after Mr Blair said the recent violence should not be treated as part of a general crime wave, but as specific to black youth. He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it".

It needed to be addressed by a tailored counter-attack in the same way as football hooliganism was reined in by producing measures aimed at the specific problem, rather than general lawlessness.

Mr Blair's remarks are at odds with those of the Home Office minister Lady Scotland, who told the home affairs select committee last month that the disproportionate number of black youths in the criminal justice system was a function of their disproportionate poverty, and not to do with a distinctive black culture.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/apr/12/ukcrime.race

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43 posted on 10/10/2012 9:16:20 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: ottbmare
From The Telegraph, June 26, 2010...

Violent inner-city crime, the figures, and a question of race

The official figures, which examine the ethnicity of those accused of violent offences in London, suggest the majority of men held responsible by police for gun crimes, robberies and street crimes are black.

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The data provide a breakdown of the ethnicity of the 18,091 men and boys who police took action against for a range of violent and sexual offences in London in 2009-10.

They show that among those proceeded against for street crimes, 54 per cent were black; for robbery, 59 per cent; and for gun crimes, 67 per cent. Street crimes include muggings, assault with intent to rob and snatching property.

Just over 12 per cent of London’s 7.5 million population is black, including those of mixed black and white parentage, while 69 per cent is white, according to the Office for National Statistics.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856787/Violent-inner-city-crime-the-figures-and-a-question-of-race.html

44 posted on 10/10/2012 11:20:53 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

another similar incident — black youth punches and elderly white bus driver in the head for no reason

http://youtu.be/UgboJakpVdc


45 posted on 10/19/2012 8:34:26 AM PDT by Cubs Fan (Under Obama, American constitutional rights are now subject to muslim approval)
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To: Bullish
the sooner we acknowledge that we must follow our basic instincts of survival, the better....

we as human beings have developed a keen sense of danger, but we've been lectured and intimidated that we can't follow that sense....

well, follow it.....

I'm sure good decent black people know who to avoid and to be afraid of..

46 posted on 10/27/2012 9:17:51 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Venturer
they're not taught hate, they're taught arrogance and self indulgence.....they're better than anybody else...

too bad they can't prove it by academics, or heroism, or service, or citizenship or volunteerism....they "prove" it by being cowards in herds attacking a lone sheep....

47 posted on 10/27/2012 9:26:56 PM PDT by cherry
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