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To: pops88
Jeff said, “As I said, I will do all in my power to help turn this around, AND THEN as I am bid by the scriptures, I will wait on the arm of the Lord to be revealed.”

Your DISINGENUOUS attempt to twist Jeff's words around, to make it look like he is "putting the arm of flesh before God": So am I understanding this correctly- you will rely on your own arm of the flesh to turn this around and then look to God after?

Isaiah 40:31 They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run and not be weary; and they shall walk and not faint.

Renewing our strength means energy must have been exerted in some form or fashion. Which therefore means, "after doing what we can do," we MUST sit back and, as "I am bid by the scriptures (as in Isaiah 40:31), I will wait on the arm of the Lord to be revealed..."

Again, you've twisted what Jeff said around and if your intention was to only clarify what Jeff said, in a concerned and loving way, you 1) wouldn't have accused him of doing his own thing without consulting the Lord first 2) asked Jeff in private.

"consider the Lilies of the field" is God telling us not to WORRY, or be anxious for our day to day needs. That happens by giving our worries to God in prayer. That Scripture is not to give license or liberty from the requirements of working to provide for ourselves, to be lazy, to be idle and expecting handouts. In fact, the Scripture expressly does not condone that kind of behavior or thinking.

Admit that your question to Jeff was posed not out of clarification needs, but as an attempt to judge, condemn, insult, and/or ridicule Jeff's spirituality.

1,087 posted on 08/12/2012 2:47:40 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

My question was indeed to clarify. You’re the one that turned this into a scripture circus. As for the Lilies scripture, I know it’s God telling us not to worry, but the meaning goes far beyond that, which as being a gardener, I appreciate.


1,092 posted on 08/12/2012 2:57:23 AM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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