Defeating the Ultra-Right: Know Your Enemy (Revealing!)

Political Affairs: Marxist Thought Online ^ | June 2, 2010 | Frank T. DeAngelis

[Noumenon]

They are all unfit to live in a free society. God speed the Day that we may hasten their departure from this one. One way or the other.

[darkangel82]

No one ever said communists were smart.

[Mr. K]

In other words- Communist Party is FRIENDS of the Democraps.

All you need to know from this article

[a fool in paradise]

At least he didn’t try to explain McCainian Conservativism or Specter Conservativism. < /ha >

[2ndDivisionVet]

"In other words- Communist Party is FRIENDS of the Democraps."

Anyone who hadn't figured that out years ago is dense, not paying any attention or mentally challenged. Vice President Hubert Humphrey and Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson were probably the last of the patriotic Democrats.

[VeniVidiVici]

Communism is so well-regarded that they have to insulate their citizens from freedom of speech and they have to build walls to keep their citizens from escaping.

[avacado]

"If we engage in well-informed and serious debate, I am confident in our ability to reach vindication in the long-term."

The U.S.S.R. disagress with you.

[JSDude1]

The problem is that they define the “ultra-right” as peaceful Christian Conservatives who believe in limited-government constitutionalism and the “unseen hand” of the free-market..

That is why these people will lose, because God is not with them..!

[JSDude1]

Exactly: this perons is projecting what they want libertarianism to mean so that they (can contine) to trick some segments of that population into supporting leftists instead of the “center-right”/conservative/republican policies!..

[Cacique]

We need to make note. Take names and make a list. Let these cretins expose themselves. They intend to purge us and kill us all. It may not work out as they plan it.

[OneWingedShark]

>Many lies surrounded by a few nuggets of truth.

I wouldn’t suggest eating the few kernels of golden corn from that pile of defecate... but maybe that’s just me.

[The Comedian]

If we are to neutralize the power of the conservative movement, we must dismantle their theoretical assumptions.

"Good luck with that", said Dr. Manhattan to the yappy, rabid Chihuahua...

That being said, I have never read such an in-depth and cohesive analysis from the Left. Fortunately, 95% of their membership couldn't even read this, let alone understand and implement it. And even if they did, it still includes many fatally incorrect assumptions.

But, good try Leftards. Keep it up, and we might let some of you live in cages after the Big Clean Out to act as a sort of "Coyote on the fence" warning to others who may be tempted to enslave his fellow men...

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

[throwback]

While the major conservative beliefs are largely idealistic, our theory is based on materialism. The issues addressed by Marxism are bound to adapt when it encounters new material, the method with which to address them remains true. The same cannot be said for our political adversaries, for whom world experience is already removing bits of their idealistic theories' foundations.

Hard to decipher, but I think he's saying Marxism is flexible and adapts to conditions. So, I'm guessing the Soviet flavor has adapted to a new set of issues in such a way that it is no longer discernible. Yeah, I'd just as soon we not be as flexible as that.

[truth_seeker]

Orange County Calif. has the largest population of Vietnamese people, outside of Vietnam.

Yesterday I talked with one, who is a manager of a local branch office of a major bank mortgage division.

Any way, he has relatives still living in Vietnam, and this fellow told me there are two classes in Vietnam: ...the same old poor workers, and the very rich who are connected to the communist government.

He stated the people in Vietnam cannot aspire to become part of a middle class, for one does not exist.

The enterprises utilizing workers in Vietnam are government run and/or connected.

Obviously my friend is pro-capitalism, anti-communism.

That is generally what happens, for people who have seen both systems operate; they are pro-capitalism.

Same applies for people I have met from Czech Republic, east Germany, Poland etc.

IOW results where the rubber meets the road, not high-brow philosophical debates.

[VegasCowboy]

bfl

[darkangel82]

The last GOP candidate to run against Loretta Sanchez in CA-46 was of Vietnamese descent. I am not sure if he is running again.

[throwback]

Reminds me of one of my favorite stories I read somewhere. Apparently there was a Russian factory that produced camping gear. Somebody got the bright idea that the easiest way to measure production was by the amount of resource consumed vs. the number of pieces produced. Of course once that was the metric, the frying pans all started to weigh 20 pounds or something. I’m sure they one awards for production, but one hiker always had to be designated just to carry the frying pan. Another people’s success story.

[Billthedrill]

Unfortunately for the author both the roots of conservatism and its current form date back to somewhat before the second Bush administration. Hard to believe, but there it is. They are, to be sure, rather more complex than the intellectual shorthand that is Marxism, and so one can see the utility of a Cliff's Notes version for those incapable of digesting the real thing. It's the reason baby food exists.

This essay is, however, rather too simplistic for even Cliff - Conservatism For Dummies, perhaps, with no irony intended in the title. Rand, for example, was no libertarian, nor is "Bushian" conservatism more than a weird amalgam of government subsidy and the occasional and well-deserved gurgling noises of a tyrant being flushed down a Middle Eastern drain. It is not in any sense a major subdivision of any overall "conservative" movement.

The basic tenets of conservatism as it is defined in the United States are (1) that the proper repository of political rights is the individual citizen and not the collective, (2) that property rights of citizens are not to be abrogated by a government except by the consent of those citizens, (3) that citizens form the state and not the other way around, and (4) that it is not the function of government, but of the individual citizen, to control the distribution of material wealth in the interest of class or social justice, or personal preference or any other reason. There are, to be sure, additional such principles that inform the various factions within the overall conservative arena but those appear to me to be the basic commonalities. Note that while both Christianity and Judaism informed these general principles, those principles do not require a reciprocal commitment to their religious roots.

The other possible source of guidance for the inquisitive Leftist with respect to conservatism is to ask a conservative. It isn't hard, and it won't hurt. It does, however, involve ending a sentence with a question mark and not an accusation, a form of expression that appears to be outside the abilities of most of the Left at the current time. For their more adventurous comrades, I wish them luck.

[truth_seeker]

“The last GOP candidate to run against Loretta Sanchez in CA-46 was of Vietnamese descent. I am not sure if he is running again.”

Van Tran. Yes, he is.

http://joinvantran.com/news/?p=134

[tophat9000]

Intresting