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To: Marie2

Your ignorance is astounding. “Gorilla to man?” You’re unaware of the many dinosaur/bird fossils? You still think fossilization is an easy process? You actually believe the creationist websites when they tell you there are PdD’s in biology who are 6-day creationists? Come now. (Though I note you diddn’t say “young earthers” so if you did that on purpose, a tip of my cap to you.)

I give you a speciation event (the cichlids) you give me a creationist argument about “losing genetic information” for some reason. That’s called Moving the goalposts and creationists are quite excellent at it. Sorry, marie, this is usually how new species arise. A viable population becomes geographically separated, then become genetically distinct. Then thousands and millions of years go by as the populations follow their own evolutionary pathway in their own niche. Sorry it’s not more exciting with half goat half fish men changing and “adding genetic information” before your eyes.

for that type of magic, you’ll need to read your bible.

And how many times are you going to tell us that your son has a PhD in Physics? As if that has any bearing whatsoever on the validity of evolutionary theory. Your repetition of your son’s credentials is perhaps the strangest “argument from authority” I’ve come across here.


92 posted on 05/09/2009 5:27:24 AM PDT by whattajoke (.)
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To: whattajoke; Marie2

“Your ignorance is astounding.”

“for that type of magic, you’ll need to read your bible.”

Exactly the reason I choose not to engage you Evo-morons in debate anymore.

Stinking arrogant. You talk to all women in your life like this?


93 posted on 05/09/2009 5:57:21 AM PDT by Gordon Greene (www.fracturedrepublic.com - Jesus said, "I am THE way, THE truth and THE life." Any questions?)
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To: whattajoke

“And how many times are you going to tell us that your son has a PhD in Physics?”

It’s just that you alleged that all degreed scientists believe in evolutionary theory. Since I know him so personally, I referenced him. I didn’t realize I had repeated myself.

My neighbor has a BS in Chemistry from Berkeley; he’s six day, too.

Yes, I do believe that the scientists who write for the creationist blogs, write creation science textbooks and are at the forefront of creation science teaching do actually hold the degrees they claim to hold. If they didn’t it would become quickly known. There are plenty of people seeking to undercut them in any way possible.

And no, I’m not aware of any dinosaur to bird fossils.

I know fossilization is a rare process. I do think, though, that if evolution is commonplace and pervasive, we’d have as many transitory life forms fossilized as all the trilobytes and such.

I have no shame about being a “young earther,” did not omit it on purpose, I believe the earth is about 6-8,000 years old. I believe it was created with age, that is to say, granite already formed, diamonds in the diamond fields, etc.

You may not like the cichlid argument I made, but I don’t like the cichlid argument you made, either. My purpose in responding to your cichlid argument is to point out that there are different conclusions that can be drawn from the same data.

Which is where creationists and evolutionists part. We see the same data, but interpret it differently, according our presuppositions. And the creationists are not the only ones with presuppositions. We are just the only ones honest about it.


94 posted on 05/09/2009 5:44:54 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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