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To: Marie2
The scientific method: There can be no God. Therefore, let’s see what theory we can build to disprove His existence.

Is that really what you believe? Wow. To repeat Stormer, science cannot observe or measure supernatural beings or events. If it (or you, or anyone or anything) could, there wouldn't be 1000 different supernatural deities for people to worship today. There wouldn't be the endless religious arguing and denominational disagreement. If the supernatural deity could be observed, there would be no atheists or agnostics. We'd all be peaceful loving religionists all following the same supernatural deity.

Real, good science has no such agenda that you've formulated in your paranoid head. And lastly, science certainly is not about "disproving" or proving negatives. Science follows evidence. That evidence currently shows us an old earth and evolution are the most viable explanations for our world today. If a supernatural deity has directed that, so be it. He is supernatural and has covered His tracks as only a supernatural deity could.

The creationist method: There must be a God. Therefore, let’s investigate how He made this universe and how it works.

I applaud your honesty. Now if only the ID crowd would admit as much in public. Anyway, you are entering the fray with a MASSIVE presupposition, which works well in church, but not in the scientific literature. Remove that MASSIVE presupposition, and get on with investigating the universe and how it works, and if you THEN reach the conclusion that God did it, awesome. You'll be rich and famous beyond anyone's wildest dreams.

To date, despite all the garbage that GGG throws up on the wall here, no one has done that yet. All his ilk have done is continue to lie and deceive and critique real science with a bias beyond compare.
84 posted on 05/08/2009 5:39:34 AM PDT by whattajoke (.)
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To: whattajoke

I am indeed entering with a massive presupposition - that the God of the Bible has told us precisely how He created the universe in 6 days.

But you need to realize that you are entering with a massive presupposition of your own - that there are no miracles, and the Genesis account is false.


86 posted on 05/08/2009 10:12:51 AM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: whattajoke

“Science follows evidence. “

There is no actual evidence for evolution. For instance:

The fossil record shows no transitory life forms.

There is no example of species becoming other species.

We can’t even make it happen when we try, let alone see it happening randomly.

You CAN take fossil records and posit billions of years of evolutionary theory out of it. Or, you can take them and see catastrophic flood layers.

It all depends on your presupposition.

And I’m not paranoid. I believed in evolution for my first 21 years. It doesn’t freak me out. I just happen to think it is wrong.


87 posted on 05/08/2009 10:16:55 AM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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