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You say the Katyn massacre was DISCOVERED by the German in 1943. I’ll bet the Abwehr (military intelligence) knew all about it.

It was independently discovered by Germans in 1943.

It had been previously discovered by Polish railroad workers in 1942 and the discovery was reported to the Polish Government in exile but the report was given little credence just like the early reports of the Holocaust were given little credence.

The Germans may very well have had information about the massacre before and may have been searching all over their occupied sector for proof but it takes time to be lucky enough to discover the right place to dig.

Look how long it took to discover the body of Callie Anthony, buried only a quarter mile from her home, when, for months, the news media had been obsessed with the case.

It saved them the work of killing Poles. BUT the Germans REVEALED it first in 1943.

What is the meaning of "it" in that sentence?

Suspicion?

In the Callie Anthony case, almost everybody suspected that Callie Anthony had been killed. But, until the body was found, nobody could PROVE it. Until the body was found, nobody could KNOW it. Until the body was found, even the grandparents were trying to find her alive.

Once what was "revealed" was THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF HER DEAD BODY, "suspicion" turns to "fact". Then and only then do you actually "KNOW" and not merely "suspect" or "highly suspect" or "betcha a million dollars" that Callie Anthony was dead.

Are you saying that there was a news black-out in eastern Bosnia in July? If so, your scenario is sheer fiction.

Are you saying there was a news black-out in regards to Callie Anthony case?

< fallacy>If Callie Anthony was, indeed, dead and buried only a quarter mile from her house, the news media would surely have "KNOWN" it and reported that fact back in July of 2008 since they were all over that neighborhood like pitbulls on a pork chop. < /fallacy>

You seem to be confusing TV with the Real World.

You seem to be confusing the news media with the Real World.

Truly, I fail to understand how you can write with a straight face that, if it did not appear on your TV Nightly News, it never happened.

The INDIRECT evidence of the Srebrenica massacre began to be accumulated right after the massacre as U.S. reconnaissance photos documented the sudden appearance of large areas of overturned earth around the town as a result of the digging and refilling of the mass graves.

Allied intelligence then acquired evidence about how, from August 1995 to November 1995, the bodies for the primary mass graves were exhumed by the Serbs from the primary mass grave sites and dispersed to secondary mass grave sites.

Once the Serbs no longer had military control over these mass grave sites, that intelligence was used to find the secondary grave sites and, sure enough, THOUSANDS OF BODDIES WERE DUG UP INCLUDING THE BODIES OF 2000 VICTIMS OF THE SREBRENICA MASSACRE WHICH HAVE NOW BEEN IDENTIFIED.

That is not longer "suspicion" or "belief" or "unconfirmed intelligence". That is PHYSICAL EVIDENCE OF THE MASSACRE OF 2,000 PEOPLE FROM SREBRENICA.

What TV reporters said or did not say as they were given Dog & Pony Shows by the Serbs is totally irrelevant to the historical facts documented by the exhumation AND POSITIVE DNA IDENTIFICATION of 2,000 of the Srebrenica dead.

Bridges of bone and blood: identifying victims in Bosnia --- More than 7000 people have now been identified, of these more than 2000 were victims of the Srebrenica massacres ... The ICMP began using genetic fingerprinting techniques in 1999, as a last step in the process of identification. But, according to Deputy Director of Forensic Sciences Adnan Rizvic, "now we're using DNA fingerprinting like a first step" - a "forensic revolution" which has dramatically increased the rate and number of identifications. .... The more samples there are to compare against, the greater the statistical probability that an apparent match is genuine. In fact ICMP's own standard is that the match must be at least 99.95 percent certain before the name of the individual can be passed on to a pathologist, who then checks all the evidence before making a final official identification.

The PHYSICAL AND SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE composed of the DEAD BODIES OF POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED VICTIMS OF THE SREBRENICA MASSACRE is right there and, to counter it, you present the fact that CNN showed up at Srebrenica and was given a Dog & Pony Show by the Serbs just like the Red Cross was given a Dog & Pony Show by the Nazis at Theresienstadt?

Just because it was not on TV in July, 2008, it meant that Callie Anthony was not dead and buried one quarter mile from her home at the time?

Just because the news of the Red Cross visit to Theresienstadt reported very well-treated Jews that even had their own orchestras means that those very same Jews were not gassed shortly after the smiling Nazis waved "Good-bye" to the Red Cross and the news media after the Dog & Pony Show?

Come on. Grow up and and turn off your TV set! TV News is not the Real World. You cannot use the absence from your TV News or the New York Times of something as proof of ANYTHING in the Real World.

You won't find any mention of the Ukrainian famines in the New York Times but that does not mean that they did not happen even though the New York Times reporter in the USSR won a Pulitzer Prize for his Soviet Union reporting but yet mentioned nothing about the Ukranian Famine at the time.

Walter Duranty: Stalin's Man in Moscow

The PROVEN historical facts are these:

The Srebrenica Massacre victims were shot, buried, dug up and transported to hide the evidence, reburied, TRACKED DOWN BY ALLIED INTELLIGENCE, dug up, FOUND BY THE THOUSANDS, and then 2,000 of those bodies were POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED to an ICMP standard of at least a 99.95 percent certain DNA match.

THAT is the Real World.

THAT is documented History.

"I didn't see it on TV on CNN so it didn't happen", is just being naive in the extreme.

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"The moving of corpses from their original burial places to 'secondary sites' was a unique feature of the Srebrenica massacres. It was an attempt by the Bosnian Serbs who carried out the killings to hide the evidence. In some cases bodies were dug up and reburied several times, becoming increasingly dismembered and 'commingled'. This has made identifying remains particularly difficult.

The graves were dug, filled, and emptied using large mechanical diggers. Although these tore and crushed the remains, compounding the problem of identification, their tracks and loading buckets also left characteristic imprints in the soil, which can be revealed by forensic archaeologists. This information can not only link together various primary and secondary sites, it can also contribute to a legal argument that there was organized intent to commit the crime."

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