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V-shaped UFOs in NM photos
examiner ^ | January 16 2009

Posted on 01/17/2009 1:52:28 PM PST by JoeProBono

CHAMA, NM - Several meandering V-shaped UFOs near a mountain slope here turned up on a woman's digital photos. Three photos shot with a 21 megapixel camera caught multiple crafts approaching in the first frame, one craft in frame two moving close to the ground while the others take positions in the sky, and then frame three shows all of the crafts moving out of the area.

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To: Joya

Thanks much for the update from Guy Malone’s site. Moving story.


1,241 posted on 02/09/2009 10:17:20 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ALASKA; airborne; areafiftyone; aruanan; A South Park Republican; auggy; AU72; Aroha; ...

Here’s some more videos . . .

‘Mile-wide UFO’ spotted by British airline pilot, passengers and other crew of other airline at the same time. . . radar traces for 50 minutes; visual for 12 minutes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5tnCxA2nDI&feature=related

COAST TO COAST AUDIO: UFOs/IFOs: Dreadful Battle Is Taking Place Right Now In Space ! - pt.2 Of 7 . . . preliminary chatter up to 2:19

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_t238XBxf0&feature=related

From Taiwan and by sequence other locations . . .

1990 and . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hbPLZ6ylrg&feature=PlayList&p=00A15A426CE2A83F&index=0

UFO paintings 200 years ago in Japan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP7GgDCJAcQ

Latest UFO Sighting over Stephenville,30th January,2009:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbso4T4d24I

UFO Fires Beams Over Alto Rosario, Argentina January 30 2009: seems to fire beam about 20-22 seconds in. I didn’t notice anything interesting the rest of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujZx_Vw14bI

Aliens the Truth Visitor Submitted UFO Videos Night Vision Infrared UFO Freemont California 12 5 08. V shaped craft clearly outlined/visible about 24 seconds in.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJNaylricqM

2 UFO’s merging [Soviet] military declassified footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBxNRq-o0CU&feature=related

Interesting movements . . . UFO CAUGHT ON VIDEO ADELAIDE AUSTRALIA :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi-nqKFsP9M&NR=1

“Undeniable” UFO footage from England. Clearer than average. Brief. Don’t know if hoaxed or not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtqtSnUF9hc&feature=related

Washington DC Film Footage from 1952 of UFO fleet [color film] U.S. Capital:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZiL95xiWhI&feature=related

NEWSMEN TALKING OFF AIR ABOUT O’HARE UFO:

O’Hare UFO Leaked News Footage seconds before Broadcast. Description about 2:00-4:00 minutes into it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlhiAFHHTM4&feature=related

Michio Kaku Alien life Top Secret UFO C2C: audio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ogbNQ1A5FQ&feature=related

UFO Video Footage from Stephenville Texas—Multi-colored light streaks . . . somewhat interesting if that’s of interest at all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH4Te_d8SJc&feature=related

UFO’s in Germany August 24, 1990. V or triangle craft about 5:00:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO6SLXs3jZk&feature=related

Battleship UFO—lecture about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBUeHLjj2Ac&feature=related


1,242 posted on 02/09/2009 11:25:05 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; All
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1,243 posted on 02/09/2009 11:31:41 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Will check it out, I hope, on my next awake stint.

Back to bed.

BTW, you seem to keep as crazy ours as I do. Where are you time/zone geography-wise?

Night night again.


1,244 posted on 02/10/2009 12:06:20 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

1,245 posted on 02/10/2009 3:22:13 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Quix; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2182204/posts


1,246 posted on 02/10/2009 4:04:48 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: ALASKA; airborne; areafiftyone; aruanan; A South Park Republican; auggy; AU72; Aroha; ...

More YouTube gleanings . . .

This

2008 UFO SIGHTING HISTORY

is actually quite good. But the images flash so quickly, you may want to keep your cursor over the pause button.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alvntHGSe2s

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 1 OF 15 . . . JAMES FOX . . .

Witnesses from the old Iran case and other famous cases around the world.

Moderated by Symmington

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbg31j-d4qw

a REAL u.f.o. sighting (very close)

[funky music and very bad language but very interesting video—much sharper UFO than usual . . . lots of other stuff in frame that seems like to me would make it difficult to hoax . . . though I’m far from an expert on such things.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1RbSKQ0clw


1,247 posted on 02/10/2009 10:08:23 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; areafiftyone; aruanan; A South Park Republican; auggy; ..

ORIGINAL UFO PING LIST PING . . .

Please let Las Vegas Dave and I know if you want on or off the list.

I’m also maintaining a medium frequency abbreviated list and a most frequent REALLY INTERESTED BUDDIES ping list you can ask to be on.

I think this series of videos of the PRESS CLUB presentations is well worth viewing. I transcribed some excerpts below.

The format of this series is for the witnesses, officials working with such, whistleblowers, etc. give a 2-3 minute summary and then the whole group takes questions

PART 2

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 2 OF 15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6H82cHD2wU

PART 3
AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 3 OF 15

astronomer IIRC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Sc2dLXq_o

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 4 OF 15

“600,000 sightings over 5 decades” files released to public.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCPb3JL1qP8&feature=related

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 5 OF 15

RETIRED GENERAL OF IRANIAN AIR FORCE . . . HISTORIC TEHERAN INCIDENT. HE PILOTED THE 2ND JET SCRAMBLED TOWARD THE UFO.

REPORTS ONE UFO LANDING IN THE INCIDENT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQHkBvd0-1A&feature=related

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 6 OF 15

CHILIEN REPORTS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rAa3h0eteo&feature=related

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 7 OF 15

PERUVIAN: OFFICIAL PILOT OF AIR FORCE.

1800 MEN IN FORMATION AT AIRBASE.

ALL SAW STATIONARY OBJECT LOOKING LIKE A BALLOON IN SKY ABOUT 3 MILES DISTANT

UNIT COMMANDER ORDERED ME TO TAKE OFF IN MY JET AND SHOOT THE INTRUDER DOWN AS IT WAS IN RESTRICTED AIRSPACE.

I STRAFED THE OBJECT WITH 35MM SHELLS. SOME HIT THE GROUND BUT SOME HIT THE OBJECT WITHOUT ANY EFFECT.

. . .

TWO MORE TIMES I HAD THE OBJECT TARGETED . . . IT WOULD MOVE AWAY AT THE LAST MINUTE . . .

IT STOPPED . . . I CAME WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE UFO . . . NO WINDOWS, NO ENGINE, NO EXHAUST

I had spent 22 minutes maneuvering with this object. After I landed, the object remained in view for 2 hours.

It still gives me chills to think about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGwwpJJcg9s&feature=related

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 8 OF 15

PERU: DR ANTHONY CHOY FOUNDER OF . . . PERUVIAN AIR FORCE OFFICE TO RESEARCH . . .

TRAVEL ALL OVER MY COUNTRY FOR 10 YEARS COLLECTING INFO

OBTAINED VIDEO . . . THIS OBJECT WAS SUSPENDED IN THE AIR FOR 5 HOURS . . . SILENTLY . . .

APPROXIMATELY 80 FEET . . . LANDED . . . LANDING FEET . . .

AIR FORCE ORDERED ME TO INVESTIGATE THIS SIGHTING

ABLE TO RECORD FOR 55 MINUTES WITH THE AID OF AMERICAN TV CHANNEL . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_mEx9ZJhHg&feature=related

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 9 OF 15

AIRLINE PILOT RAY BOYER BRITAIN ESTIMATED CRAFT TO BE A MILE ACROSS.

VERY DIFFERENT REPORTING POLICIES, RULES, LAWS ON THE DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE ATLANTIC.

WE ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT AIRCRAFT WHERE THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE. MY COMPANY HAS SUPPORTED ME.

I have not been worried about being ridiculed because I merely reported what I observed.

I was surprised about how the OHare incident was handled. It appears that pressure was applied to crew members by the [airline] companies. I’d have been surprised, shocked if a British company had told me to shut up or that I hadn’t seen what I’d seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CrWkfefArE&feature=related

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 10 OF 15

NICK POPE—FORMERLY WITH BRITISH MINISTRY OF DEFENSE . . . the responsibility rests with the MOD . . . who’s responsibility is to assess for threat to the UK.

It was my desk to investigate . . . 5% of the cases had no conventional explanation . . .

speeds and maneuvers exceeding military [capabilities]

. . . where MOD’s technical experts found no evidence of faking.

I and some of my colleagues became convinced that there WERE serious defense and flight safety issues involved.

. . . meteorlogical person with 8 years of experience . . . low freq humming sound . . . moved away many times faster than military jet . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPrW8Tz2DJE&feature=related

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 11 OF 15

JAMES PENNISTON

RAF WOODBRIDGE ENGLAND SR SECURITY OFFICER IN CHARGE OF BASE SECURITY TS CLEARANCE . . .

. . . BRIEFED ME that some lights were seen just outside the gate in Rendlesham forest. He told me that the lights had not crashed. I discounted that and informed . . . that we had a crashed aircraft.

It quickly became apparent that we were not dealing with a crash . . . nor any

9 feet long 6.5 feet high . . . craft fully intact sitting inside a small clearing.

As the 3 of us got closer to the craft . . . we started having radio problems . . .

As we came up on the triagular shaped craft we saw blue . . . lights swirling around the outside of the craft . . . could feel electrical . . . effects on our clothes . . . skin . . .

I determined that the craft was not hostile to my team and our base . . . following protocals . . .

included photographs . . . notebook entries . . . and relays with the radio through airman . . . to our control center . . .

on one side of the craft were symbols that measured 3 inches high that measured 2.5 feet long . . . etched in the surface of the craft . . . warm to the touch . . .

after roughly 45 minutes, the light from the craft began to intensify . . . Burroughs and I then took a defensive position away from the craft . . . it rose in the air without any sound or any air disturbance . . . then it took off at an unbelievable, rate of speed. It was gone in the blink of an eye. I wrote in my log book—speed—impossible.

That night, over 80 Air Force personnel, all trained observers . . . witnessed the takeoff.

reported through military channels.

Team and witnesses were told to treat the investigation as Top Secret. No further discussion would be allowed.

Rolls of film . . . of course . . . appeared to be overexposed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skN5lV0nXZU&feature=related

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 12 OF 15

CHARLES HALT

Base commander of 2 large bases . . .

I had inspection oversight over all

Bentwaters . . . Largest tactical fighter wing in the Air Force . . .

a very strange event

26 Dec 1980 strange lights in the forest . . . Woodbridge . . .

triangular shape sitting on 3 legs . . . rapidly maneuvered and quickly disappeared . . . only being told of strange lights . . .

2 nights later at the Family Christmas party—told of strange events . . . “It was back” . . .

I took 2 sr patrolmen with me . . .

At the site, we find 3 1.5” indentations -—a plaster cast here with me . . . 9” across . . . forest floor there was very hard packed sand. would have had to have been a very heavy object.

Abnormal radiation

suddenly observed bright oval object with a black center reminded me of an eye . . . appeared to be blinking . . . maneuvered through the trees. moved away when approached . . . broke into 5 objects . . .

one approached at a high speed and sent down a bright light right at our feet that did not radiate—like a laser.

lights on our weapons.

This activity continued for an hr.

Lanier recorder . . . I have a transcript.

I know it was under intelligent control.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X86Kle0t44&feature=related

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 13 OF 15

WHAT I’M ABOUT TO TELL YOU IS ABOUT AN EVENT THAT NEVER HAPPENED. Used to say—who you going to believe—your lying eyes or the government?

I received a call from the Air Traffic Quality control branch in Alaska . . .

About the UFO that chased the JAL 747 across the Alaskan skies . . .

. . . Hey the guy says—who believes in UFO’s I just need to know what to tell the media. Then I said, wrap it all up.

I want the disc, the tapes, . . . on my desk tomorrow morning.

flight 1628 . . . cargo jet just north or Anchorage . . . closer actually to 05:00

said the UFO was 4 times bigger than the size of his aircraft. Said he saw it with his eyes; co-pilot saw it, other crew member saw it.

UFO jumped miles in seconds. 12 at 8 miles . . . 10 seconds later—it’s 6-7 miles behind them. . . in only 5-6 seconds . . .

after receiving the data . . . briefed my boss . . . Admiral said go to the tech center . . . had created a program that could recreate what had happened on all the instruments.

The print out and radar display . . . target returns were the same as the pilot had asserted.

Of course the CIA said you can’t see it cause it’s not there.

The military controllers also viewed the primary target—they identified it as a DOUBLE PRIMARY—very large.

They were able to see it with their own eyes.

Hey, you have traffic at my altitude?

it’s an unknown—Air traffic controller will track him until he lands and we will write him up.

Pilot said it’s a UFO.

Attitude of air traffic . . . disbelieving.

set up a briefing with the scientific . . . of Reagan’s staff . . . turned out to be CIA . . .

Admiral said I want you to hand it off because the FAA does not control UFO’s I want it out of our turf.

I took a video tape . . . made a copy.

Put on the video . . . they wanted to know the speed, beam width etc.

people were all headquarters engineers . . .

When they got done . . . the CIA SAID . . . to all the people there—THIS EVENT NEVER HAPPENED. WE WERE NEVER HERE. YOU’RE ALL SWORN TO SECRECY. WE ARE CONFISCATING ALL THIS DATA.

and they did.

Boxes and boxes of print outs.

UFO INCIDENT AT ANCHROAGE . . .

They took all that data.

A few weeks later, they brought in the FAA’s report of the event that never happened. I had them put it on a little table in my office in the corner and I had them put it all there waiting for the CIA to come get it.

I had the tech people put together a chart showing all the targets along the way.

When we got done with this briefing . . . engineers that built all this stuff . . .

said “it’s a software problem” . . . every time so the software guy gets up . . . “it’s a hardware problem” . . . there were no software problems . . .

wellllll what do we have . . . do we have a target there, or not.

One man got up and said “My religion forbids me to believe in UFO’s.”

This stuff stayed in my office for 2 years, specialist packed it all up and shipped it to my house.

Most are not familiar with how the FAA works.

The system today and the organization of the FAA is not configured to identify and to track these types of craft.

Who you going to believe, your lying eyes or the government/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnYlM9LlDzM&feature=related

AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 14 OF 15

THANK YOU INSPECTOR CALLIHAN, YOU BEAT CLINT EASTWOOD HANDS DOWN.

SYMMINGTON . . . massive delta shaped craft . . . North Phoenix . . . truly breathtaking. . . .

very distinctively leading edge with huge lights in it.

As a pilot and former AirForce officer did not resemble any manmade object I’d seen. It was certainly NOT high altitude flares—I’ve never seen flares fly in formation.

So I decided to lighten up the mood of the State by dressing up my chief of staff in an ET suit.

I never meant to ridicule anyone.

Eventually the Air National Guard CLAIMED responsibility . . . that A-10’s had been flying in formation . . .

But those of us . . . know it’s the noisest machine in the sky . . .

So we get these explanations that fly in the face of facts . . .

balloons, swamp gas, software problems . . .

I know I’m not alone in witnessing something extraordinary.

Many high ranking . . . share my concerns.

No doubt as to the veracity of what these men have told you.

guarded, . . . flown countless passengers . . .

QUESTIONS:

FAA
BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO ENCOURAGE PUBLIC FEAR. That’s why you can’t know.

Symmington: The only external pressure was the incredible hysterical concern of the public. I’d never seen that kind of reaction. So the 3 of us sat down and considered how we could lighten the mood.

My chief of staff said he’d not put the suit on that it wasn’t part of his job description.

I told him I’d just changed his job description. He said he resigned. I said I wouldn’t accept his resignation—to go put it on. He’s never forgiven me for that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY9wTMFcVBw&feature=related

PART 15:
AMERICANS & PEOPLE OF THE WORLD!!, LISTEN UP: UFO DISCLOSURE 2007 @ WASHINGTON DC, NATIONAL PRESS CONFERENCE MEETING. PART 15 OF 15

There’s a pretty amazing case in Zimbabwe . . . 8-12 year old 60 students . . . claim to have seen a landed craft . . .

The media pretends . . .

Gary Tuffman . . . interested in the motivations of the coverup.

This is a government that doesn’t mind scaring us. They scare us all the time. Why do you think and state . . .

Inspector Callihan . . .

You remember the Air Traffic Controllers’ strike . . . military folks . . . not all bad controllers walked out and not all good controllers stayed in.

Part of the problem during that period of time was that the American public didn’t lose confidence in the Air Traffic . . . part of my job was spin control . . .

Right after 2 mid-air collisions . . . we had to construct a twist that the system was safer now than 2 years ago—which was impossible.

We in America are supposed to be the most technical country on the planet. How can we admit someone else is more technical than us when we are having trouble getting across the country without running into one another.

It’s a mindset that the Government has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP8hEyf_AFw


1,248 posted on 02/10/2009 11:59:44 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: yazoo

Try this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_and_type_II_errors

sound familiar?


1,249 posted on 02/10/2009 3:14:58 PM PST by Lx
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To: Lx

VERY FEW naysayers hereon seem to have

ever

very adequately, if at all,

wrapped their understanding around the fact that a TYPE II ERROR

is just as deadly, costly, punishing as the TYPE I errors they do back flips to avoid.

Nor do they realize that the more rabidly, irrationally, extremely they avoid a TYPE I error

THAT THEY ARE AUTOMATICALLY, INEXORABLY INSURING that they fall victim to a TYPE II error.

Yet THEY PRETEND

that THEY are the

OBJECTIVISTS,
SUPER RATIONALISTS,
SUPER BRIGHT
SUPER ERUDITE
SUPER EDUCATED

. . . lofty ones.

ROTFLOL!

ROTFLOL to the max!


1,250 posted on 02/10/2009 4:08:19 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono; A knight without armor; aragorn; B-Chan; BigSkyVic; BreezyDog; DollyCali; GingisK; ...

[another charitable offering of a mind expanding experience for the naysayers]

Disclosure Project 17th Witness Mr Mark Candlish

. . . NATIONAL PRESS CLUB TYPE FORUM . . .

He names names . . .

craft speed roughly the speed of a bullet leaving a gun . . .

Congressman Brown’s staff confirmed that there were 3 discs in the hanger at the exhibit . . . hovering off the floor .

photographs by a military pilot . . . . .

crew chief working on experimental aircraft at Edwards AFB . . . unintentially wandered into an area with an ARB . . . Brad Sorenson . . . Burt Rhutan . . .

who felt it was a joke and put it on his wall as a joke . . . a Col Ray Walsh was visiting Burt Rhutan and saw the blueprint on Rhutan’s wall and was became very angry wondering where he got the blueprint.

. . . up to mach 20 . . .

declassified NASA documents showing . . . shapes . . .

shows a variety of spherical lenticular shapes . . .

interoffice memo from . . . Aerospace . . .

zero point energy and scalar waves . . .

this document describes . . . cooperating with the Russian scientific community . . . Tesla . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qw7NaZip4M

The U.F.O. Disclosure Process Has Begun [BRITISH RELEASE OF DOCUMENTS NIGHTLINE NEWS PROGRAM]

MAY 20 1957

ORDERED TO ARM ALL WEAPONS . . .

1991 . . . ITALIAN AIRLINE PILOT . . . NEAR MISS

ABOUT 5% OF CASES CAN’T BE EXPLAINED

PEOPLE are taken seriously. People are prepared to investigate

11,000 UFO cases reported in Britain since 1959

Some of them have had bases on planet earth for thousands of years.

Rendlesham forest . . .

TIMOTHY GOOD . . . the official agenda, I’ve been told on both sides of the Atlantic, is a gradual disclosure that’s going on . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2RIbaHD3bE

video ad for FEB 2009 UFO CONFERENCE . . . has a lot of interesting pics flashing in it.

UFO Convention and film festival 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWkyMzB8sV8

SUN REPORTS CIGAR UFO FOLLOWS ROCKET MAN ON HIS FLIGHT OVER
CHANNEL . . .

VERY FUZZY image appears in white circle in upper left of screen about 0:17-0:20 seconds into video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aj3FLu6JbQ


1,251 posted on 02/10/2009 8:40:17 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Travis T. OJustice; JoeProBono

It’s so comforting when naysayers pontificate off the top of their biases instead of reading/watching/listening to a shred of the evidence!

Helps keep them in that class of folks who refuse to be ‘confused’ by facts

and thereby less troublesome to those who are still fair-mindedly investigating complex data sets.

I’m curious, though . . .

Do you feel a micrometer taller?

a centimeter taller?

an inch taller?

or a foot taller

when you label others “psycho tards?”

I have some sympathy for the motivation. Overcoming lack of Daddy’s holding and loving the first 6-8 years can be a real gritch.

Besides—it’s soooooooooo much easier to rant against other personhoods instead of fair-mindedly consider solid evidence.

Besides more than 3000 cases with tangible evidence would be such a bother.

ROTFLOL.


1,253 posted on 02/11/2009 6:54:55 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono

Some naysayers are close to convincing me that they REALLY ARE government shills! LOL.


1,254 posted on 02/11/2009 7:03:08 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Your tactics are very similar to algore and the global warming types. Both swear their lies are the truth, and will try to steamroll those who know the truth.


1,255 posted on 02/11/2009 7:05:10 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

BALDERDASH.

Not a shred of steamrolling.

The assaults of the blackbird flock of naysayers flooding a UFO thread without a shred of reasonable contributive rationale or dialogue is much more the steamrolling sort of thing.

However, I understand, all your mirrors are shattered.

Besides, potshots are so much easier than even slightly fair-mindedly considering the posted data.

We in the West are used to folks who blindly shoot from the hip.


1,256 posted on 02/11/2009 7:14:31 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I’m happy you took a stats class. The funny thing though, your description of these errors is almost word for word from the Wiki entry.

All your pontificating about type one and type two errors is just so much B.S. You have a fixation.


1,257 posted on 02/11/2009 7:34:30 AM PST by Lx
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To: Quix

Reading your idiotic drivel would be less productive than reading the other idiotic drivel at DU.


1,258 posted on 02/11/2009 7:41:23 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Quix
Quix, do you watch Fringe?
1,259 posted on 02/11/2009 7:52:53 AM PST by marbren
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To: Lx; JoeProBono

Interesting.

I don’t recall ever reading Wiki. It’s not a favorite source.

I learned my stuff about TYPE I AND TYPE II errors around 1966 in my BA degree program. Of course, the PhD program refreshed that learning. And my Dissertation Chairman was masterful about such issues.

Accusing me of B.S. and a fixation does NOT remove the hazard to naysayers that their doing back flips to avoid a TYPE I error results in landing them automatically in the lap of a TYPE II ERROR.

But, hey, lots of folks are statistically challenged. It’s not even my strength.

However, I am well aware of the inexorable relationship dynamics between avoiding a TYPE I ERROR SO INTENSELY, SO MINDLESSLY THAT ONE AUTOMATICALLY MORE OR LESS INSURES A TYPE II ERROR.

And, PLEASE be my guest. CONTINUE to be clueless about TYPE II ERRORS. It will make the shock all the more humorous . . . or sad . . . when it comes.

A lot of naysayers will likely need reconstructive jaw surgery.

Ah well. At least some were warned.

It’s a shame that one can read even the simplicity of Wiki and come away abjectly ignorant about TYPE I AND TYPE II ERRORS. Amazing.

But then, maybe it’s a practiced, habitual, learned ignorance in order to avoid the responsibility of making choices and being accountable for them. Hadn’t thought of that. HMMMMmmmmmmm Would fit a lot of naysayers’ personae, alright.

Hmmmmm . . . what would cause such a practiced, habitual, learned ignorance . . . ahhhhh, yes, the old perfectionistic parenting thing . . . probably coupled with some level of ATTACHMENT DISORDER . . . resulting in . . .

drum roll . . .

an overwhelming need to DENY; DANCE FASTER; DISMISS; RIDICULE . . . ETC. anything which doesn’t fit one’s preconceived notions; anything which doesn’t fit one’s pseudo-tidy little boxes of comforting familiarity and pseudo stability. Bullys demonstrate such mentalities and dynamics on school yards all over the world daily.

—soooooooooooooooooooo IMPRESSIVE.
—soooooooooooooooooooo MATURE.
—soooooooooooooooooooo ERUDITE.
—soooooooooooooooooooo KNOWLEDGEABLE.
—soooooooooooooooooooo BRILLIANT.
—soooooooooooooooooooo feeble.


1,260 posted on 02/11/2009 7:58:05 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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