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To: pjr12345
Don't forget Luke 2:48:

"And when they saw him, they were astonished, and his mother said unto him, Son, why has thou thus dealt with us? Behold, thy father and I have sought thee, sorrowing."

I realize that his mother was upset, especially the inconvenience of having to return to Jerusalem with all his other little brothers and sisters, but is that what I think it is? --- an untruth issuing forth from the immaculate one.

43 posted on 01/02/2007 2:15:30 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Actually all we see here is an English translation of a Greek Story, written from the oral teaching of St Paul by the Apostle Luke. St Paul was not present when this occured (likely in Aramaic).

Can you please show us the greek for father, and son? (You'll note that in this verse the normal Greek for biological son isn't used).


53 posted on 01/02/2007 2:23:41 PM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: Uncle Chip
thy father and I have sought thee

Ya mean "father" isn't just another word for "brethren"? lol.

61 posted on 01/02/2007 2:29:15 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Uncle Chip
... especially the inconvenience of having to return to Jerusalem with all his other little brothers and sisters

The Bible mentions no "little brothers and sisters" in Luke 2, just "relatives and acquaintances".

How is it that when Catholics assert things not explicitly mentioned in the Scriptures, those are "traditions and vain philosophies of men" ... but you can get away with inventing details that aren't in the Bible, thereby adding your own traditions and vain philosophies of men to God's holy word?

an untruth issuing forth from the immaculate one.

What was she supposed to say? "Behold, thy putative foster father not truly related to thee by blood and I have sought thee, sorrowing?"

77 posted on 01/02/2007 2:41:04 PM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Uncle Chip

An untruth? Hardly. Joseph was Jesus' father according to the Law and family. Jesus obeyed Joseph as his son, and received through Joseph his inheritance as King of Israel. But you do inadverdantly defend the Orthodox position that James was Jesus' "brother" even though they shared no common blood.


99 posted on 01/02/2007 2:53:37 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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