Posted on 07/04/2006 11:35:26 PM PDT by Spiff
Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO)
23 May 2006
WASHINGTON, D.C. Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO), Chairman of the 97-member House Immigration Reform Caucus, expressed disappointment at Rep. Mike Pences policy shift on immigration reform. At a Heritage Foundation speech this afternoon, Pence presented what he called a rational middle ground between amnesty and mass deportation that turns its back on a enforcement-first strategy, grants rogue employers amnesty, and would in effect reward illegal aliens for breaking the law.
Mike Pence is making the same mistakes that the President has, using the straw man of mass deportations and redefining amnesty to suit his interests. Unfortunately, like the President, Pence is breaking from House conservatives who remain steadfast in their support of a security-first approach to immigration, said Tancredo.
Pences plan would require illegal aliens to return to their home countries to apply for a new W worker visa. Employers could hire as many foreign workers as they want under the W visa, and, in practice, they would likely hire the same workers who they employed illegally before. Pence wants to start the new foreign worker program before border security is even proved effective, which is the same strategy that was used in the 1986 amnesty. Twenty years later, the U.S. got amnesty as promised but no border security.
Pences W visa is aptly named. It gives the Administration exactly what it wants: unlimited foreign workers first, enforcement later or never, said Tancredo. Pences plan is just the 1986 amnesty with a trip home tacked on.
The Pence plan includes no prevailing wage standard for foreign workersit simply relies on the good will of employers to try to hire American workers before offering jobs under the new foreign worker visa. In fact, almost all current visas require employers to offer the job to American workers before seeking foreign labor, but with no enforcement mechanism, the requirement is laughable.
The Houses strategy in H.R. 4437 was to fix the illegal alien problem by enforcing the law. Over time, as illegal workers cannot obtain jobs, they go home because they have no other option open to them. Pence takes a much different approach: fix illegal behavior by legalizing it, said Tancredo. As a conservative and a friend of Mike Pence, I am baffled by his shift on immigration. I hope he reconsiders his position and returns to an enforcement-first position.
I know that he started the KKK. I asked why he was regarded as a traitor.
Nice, onyx, some of us have children that participate in the Special Olympics. What class you have, sarcastic innuendo about special children. Shame on you. May all your children and grandchildren be born healthy and 'perfect.'
Umm...you don't explain why you think that he was a traitor. A traitor to what?
Many thanks! :-)
His country...
Can you answer how? I'm beginning to believe that you are ignorant of that era, how people thought, and what they believed the Constitution stated. They believed seccession was perfectly constitutional, and they considered themselves citizens of their sovereign states, not the U.S. These are just two examples from that time. Prior to the Civil War federalism was a reality, unlike today. I suggest that you educate yourself a little more before you label folks traitors and the like. Makes you sound like a fool.
Uh yeah, moron, I wrote a 354 page paper on the era and spent three years of my life intensively studying it. Unlike you, whose knowledge of the period probably comes from reading some KKK-David Duke website.
HAHA! Reading "See Dick and Jane Run" books does not qualify. It is very obvious by your responses that you know nothing about that era, can not discern between the time leading up to the Civil War, the war itself or the Reconstruction phase. Nor do you have a clue about pre civil war society, political views, how folks viewed the Constitution or how they saw themselves in context with the republic.
You are an ignoramus. Now, go away democratsorcerer.
Excellent response! I never knew, that within our own party, that some would excuse bad policy "for the good of the party." I knew that happens a lot in liberal parties, but not in our Grand Ol' Party! If Bush asked for Gun Controls (which he didn't-I'm proud to say he let bad legislation sunset), some on here would say "he has a trick up his sleeve, just trust him"; or, "Bush is just being intelligent and he knows what is best for us and it's for the party". I find this sheeple mentality disheartening!
Hahahaha...some uneducated moron telling me about the past. That is rather interesting. Notice it is you who keep making generic statements, but how about providing some evidence? of course you can't. Don't worry - I won't make fun of you when you link to some David Duke/Neo-Nazi site.
You are pitiful. You really know nothing of that time, do you? I was making no judgements, pro or con, about Forrest. I simply asked you why you thought that he was a traitor. Your response was vague nonsense.
By the way, am I supposed to link to a David Duke/KKK site or David Duke/Neo Nazi site? You are using them interchangeably, once again showing your gross ignorance of history and various organizations. You may be able to impress some junior high school girls with pseudo intellectual crap, but you get no points here.
Yes, I closed your account a year and a half ago per your written request. Then about six months later, I saw you register and begin posting under a new account. I figured if you wanted back on FR so badly, I might as well restore your original account. So which is it? Were you banned unfairly by FR management? Or did you request your account to be closed? Or do you now want it banned again? And if I ban this one again per your request, do you also want your new account banned?
And, yes, why do you continue posting on FR while you trash us on other forums?
David Duke, KKK, and Neo Nazism are pretty much birds of the same feather - virulently repulsive and racist.
As for you, I'd ask you take up your childish knowledge and puerile antics with a bunch of preschoolers, but I would not want their mind tainted by your repulsive and loathsome ideology.
<< Then about six months later, I saw you register and begin posting under a new account. >>
So AuntB has been using another ID most of the time she claimed to be "banned" or boycotting FR? LOL.
What a rebel.
Why has this news story been moved to the "Smokey Backroom"?
Well, you and me don't know each other personally, Jim Robinson. But I know of you. I've been a member since 2001. Since I never gave you money, guess I am just a FReeploader.
FR has gone downhill, bigtime.
Time to ban me now?
Folks are talking other places - and you might take heed.
What ideology am I espousing? I simply asked you to explain how Forrest was a "traitor" and you went into hysterics. Neo nazis and the KKK are not interchangeable as they have a different history. Once again, your ignorance is overwhelming.
Mainly because of the flamewars. I moved it to the backroom in lieu of pulling the thread. Figured y'all could duke it out back here to your heart's content.
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