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To: Mulder; jonascord

You guys live in a fantasy world. I was on a SWAT team and can speak about this procedure from an experts point of view. This is how it works in laymans terms. Officer gets a search warrant base on his testimony to a judge. He calls us and says I have a warrant to hit a house. He gives us description and address. We drive by and do a look over and plan raid. If address and description match what is written in the warrant we saddle up and execute warrant. Once scene is secure we leave.

Bottom line, officer who gets the warrant and gives the info to the SWAT team is at fault and retains culpability for the veracity of the info. SWAT goes where it is asked and has the lawful instrument supporting that position. Research the actual procedure involved before condemning all who are on scene.


51 posted on 03/23/2006 11:39:42 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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To: One Proud Dad
You know, on my planet, those who actually commit the crime are the ones held responsible.

Passing the buck saying they had bad info is lame beyond comprehension. Even if their info was bad, THEY are the ones who committed the crime and put these old folks in the hospital.
70 posted on 03/23/2006 11:46:55 AM PST by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings............Modesty hides my thighs in her wings......)
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To: One Proud Dad
"He calls us and says I have a warrant to hit a house."

'Hitting' a house should only occur in a hostage situation where an on-scene negotiator has determined that the lives of the hostages are immediate jeaporady. Not for a bunch yo-yos in ninja gear over some meth.

72 posted on 03/23/2006 11:47:26 AM PST by jjm2111 (http://www.purveryors-of-truth.blogspot.com)
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To: One Proud Dad; All

1 Logging workers 92.4 85
2 Aircraft pilots 92.4 109
3 Fishers and fishing workers 86.4 38
4 Structural iron and steel workers 47.0 31
5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.2 35
6 Farmers and ranchers 37.5 307
7 Roofers 34.9 94
8 Electrical power line installers/repairers 30.0 36
9 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 27.6 905
10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 24.2 67




There's the top ten most dangerous jobs in America, death rate for 100,000 and total deaths per year. I don't see cop anywhere on that list, spare me the "danger" speech. Funny, but none of the occupations on that list are allowed carte blanche to violate the publics' civil rights either. Being a SWAT jackboot is exponentially less dangerous than being a garbarge man. LMAO


74 posted on 03/23/2006 11:48:26 AM PST by SandfleaCSC ( “Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the bible says love your enemy.”)
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To: One Proud Dad

SWAT goes where it is asked and has the lawful instrument supporting that position.

Nazis tried that: "I was just following orders, doing my job.", at the Nuremberg trials.

143 posted on 03/23/2006 12:20:27 PM PST by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: One Proud Dad
Bottom line, officer who gets the warrant and gives the info to the SWAT team is at fault and retains culpability for the veracity of the info.

And SWAT is culpable for guessing where the warrant wasn't exact enough.

164 posted on 03/23/2006 12:45:49 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: One Proud Dad

"We saddle up" OOOOOOOO you "saddle up"

Arrogant creep.

You don't "saddle up" so you can "go cowboy" on a couple of 80 year olds.

Why don't you just admit they made a mistake and move on.

Anything else is just blind, stubborn, stupid aggorance.

I guess you were perfect for your job though, huh??


255 posted on 03/23/2006 3:08:33 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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