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Speaker: Marijuana smoking victimless
Granville Sentinel (NJ) ^ | March 8, 2006 | CHARLES A. PETERSON

Posted on 03/10/2006 11:00:52 AM PST by Know your rights

GRANVILLE -- Marijuana is about as harmless as a cup of coffee but far less dangerous than alcohol and tobacco, an advocate for changes in marijuana laws told a Denison University audience of about 200 Tuesday night.

Allen F. St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, often used the alcohol analogy to make his points favoring general decriminalization of marijuana.

St. Pierre, 40, drew a curious contrast between the friendly neighborhood bartender pouring a beer and "pushers" who sell marijuana.

"There is no functional difference between a bartender and a drug dealer," he contended. "Some of the most imprudent decisions you make in your life are made under the influence of alcohol," St. Pierre said, noting that alcohol causes 120,000 deaths per year, compared to essentially zero for marijuana.

"If you abuse alcohol," he said, "you drink when you drive or pee in somebody's front yard. In our society you have to do something to be labeled as an abuser. This (abuse) doesn't happen with marijuana."

NORML, in existence for 35 years, lobbies its agenda chiefly through education, legislation and litigation, but St. Pierre prefers the first two, especially at the state level. It is his hope that change "bubbles" up to the federal level through reforms among the states.

St. Pierre observed that use of tobacco, which still claims 400,000 lives a year, has plummeted in his lifetime through educational efforts, not through the criminal justice system.

"The war on drugs is really a war on people," he said. "We don't have wars against inanimate objects."

St. Pierre said a debate over changing marijuana laws can be won with four words: "No victim, no crime."

"If you're smoking marijuana, who's the victim?" he questioned.

Marijuana has a lethal-dose toxicity rating of 50, which mean's it's not lethal, period, he said. But despite scientific evidence, he continued, the federal government in 1970 gave the plant "Schedule I" status along with pure forms of heroine and LSD, meaning that these drugs are (1) high in potential for abuse, (2) addictive, and (3) possess no medical utility. St. Pierre maintains that marijuana may be psychologically addictive, but not physically so.

NORML favors changing marijuana to Schedule II status, having been proven to be medically useful in treatment for glaucoma, AIDS, cancer, multiple sclerosis and chronic pain.

For cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, he said marijuana's tendency to give users the "munchies" helps them to keep down food and remain healthy.

Two Denison students lauded St. Pierre's approach to his subject.

"The basis of all this is logic and understanding law," rather than emotion and ideology, said sophomore Mike Kalnins, an English literature/history major. "Honest, intelligent discussion of issues is what we need, rather than ridicule and Anne Coulter."

Junior media technology and arts major Amber Yoder agreed.

"I liked that he approached it from an intelligent and scientific basis," she said.


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1 posted on 03/10/2006 11:00:53 AM PST by Know your rights
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To: Know your rights

Until you get run over by some pot head.

And look what it did for Algore (sic).


2 posted on 03/10/2006 11:02:52 AM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: Know your rights

I wish I had the smiley eating popcorn animation. :)


3 posted on 03/10/2006 11:03:10 AM PST by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: Know your rights; beyond the sea

Nothing's going to change, in our lifetimes. There's too much money, power and too many jobs which depend upon everything staying "as is".


4 posted on 03/10/2006 11:03:13 AM PST by butternut_squash_bisque (Borders, Language, Cultureā„¢)
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To: Know your rights

This guy has never seen me stoned, obviously.


5 posted on 03/10/2006 11:04:26 AM PST by Glenn (There is a looming Tupperware shortage. Plan appropriately.)
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To: Know your rights

"St. Pierre observed that use of tobacco, which still claims 400,000 lives a year,"

BS. I get sick of hearing that lie. 400,000 people who smoke may die every year but smoking has NEVER been listed as a cause of death for ANYONE.


7 posted on 03/10/2006 11:05:38 AM PST by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: Know your rights
"If you're smoking marijuana, who's the victim?" he questioned.

I ask this question at every family gathering (a lot of my relatives are LEO's).

Never got a straight answer.

8 posted on 03/10/2006 11:07:37 AM PST by CrawDaddyCA (There is no such thing as a fair fight. Thou shall win at all costs!!)
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To: fireforeffect
Until you get run over by some pot head.

And his car hits you and rolls back because it was going 15 mph.

9 posted on 03/10/2006 11:08:13 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Know your rights
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10 posted on 03/10/2006 11:08:49 AM PST by digger48
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To: bannedfromdu

Light 'em if you got 'em.

Weekend starts early for me.


11 posted on 03/10/2006 11:09:00 AM PST by Natchez Hawk (What's so funny about the first, second, and fourth Amendments?)
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To: fireforeffect

I feel so much better when I get run over by some drunk.


12 posted on 03/10/2006 11:09:44 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: fireforeffect
Until you get run over by some pot head.

Drunks run over a lot of people; is that sufficient reason to ban alcohol?

13 posted on 03/10/2006 11:09:51 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Natchez Hawk

You better start catching up then.


14 posted on 03/10/2006 11:10:44 AM PST by bannedfromdu
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To: fireforeffect

Well, you know the joke about the stoned hippie driving over the Golden Gate Bridge. The sun is shining and he is grooving along, listening to music on the radio.

Suddenly, he is pulled over by a police officer.

"Do you know how fast you were going?

"No, officer.

"Twenty-two miles an hour!


15 posted on 03/10/2006 11:10:58 AM PST by proxy_user
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To: Wolfie
Beat me by 7 seconds. Nuts!
16 posted on 03/10/2006 11:11:21 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
Alcohol is victimless too but causes a myriad of problems involving work, relationships, drive to succeed, etc. Should we add another such drug as acceptable in our society? So long as I have to pay taxes and insurance premiums that support drug-related counseling and unemployment, I'd prefer to see pot continue to be illegal.
17 posted on 03/10/2006 11:12:05 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: fireforeffect
Until you get run over by some pot head.

There was such an incident a couple months ago near Anchorage. It's a dangerous road to begin with, but the vehicle crossed into the oncoming lane and there is noplace to maneuver to avoid. Head-on.

18 posted on 03/10/2006 11:12:09 AM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: digger48
Did you have a point?
19 posted on 03/10/2006 11:12:18 AM PST by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

The only really harmfull effect of marijuana is the weight gain, from wolfing down Doritos and pie.


20 posted on 03/10/2006 11:12:30 AM PST by bannedfromdu
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