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Not so ‘Free Republic’: The Shot Heard Around the Net
The Conservative Voice ^ | Feb 11, 2005 | by William Gheen, President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC

Posted on 02/11/2005 10:55:36 AM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Howlin
Come on; be fair; it does give TLBSHOW something to copy and paste over on LPROFL!!!

Hi TLBSHOW!!!!

681 posted on 02/11/2005 2:07:43 PM PST by Dog
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To: William Gheen

Geeze, quit whining. It's a big Internet; feel free to move on. Or better yet, start your own site.


682 posted on 02/11/2005 2:08:51 PM PST by A Navy Vet (Radical Islam is the current enemy; Moderate Islam is a Trojan horse.)
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To: rlmorel
Hehe, you ain't heard the rest of that song, either!

Oh please I can't take it any more!;-)

Are you serious? It's a song? OOOOOh my!!!

683 posted on 02/11/2005 2:09:28 PM PST by LadyPilgrim (Sealed my pardon with His Blood, Hallelujah!!! What a Savior!!!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

No, just using it as an example to the one sided punishments.


684 posted on 02/11/2005 2:09:35 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Howlin; Luis Gonzales; MineralMan
Some of the posters on FR seem to be immune to being banned.

I don't know what the story is, maybe you are friends with the moderators.

I do know this: You have made many pretty outrageous statements and often attack the more conservative posters. You also ridicule others and also make it plain that you consider yourselves immune from any action.

Often you act as if FR is your own private attack engine. I don't know, maybe it is.

685 posted on 02/11/2005 2:09:39 PM PST by yarddog
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To: cake_crumb

You name is on that thread over there


686 posted on 02/11/2005 2:09:39 PM PST by dennisw (Qur’an 9:3 “Allah and His Messenger dissolve obligations.”)
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To: My2Cents

I respectfully disagree now. During the election cycle, we had lots like Todd who bashed Bush all the time and whatnot but not it has devolved into many Bush supporters like me and Travis McGee and others who supported Bush are now arguing with folks who are either open borders, want the "Founding Majority" diminished here for a variety of reasons or they simply don't want criticism of Bush period. There is also a pro-Migra gang here advocating the economic benfits of it due to the lack of native procreation.

This thing has grown far beyond the old days of Bush bashers leading the anti-immigration charge. This forum always morphs on issues...remember once upon a time when the main schism was tween Libertarians and Conservatives...that almost seems quaint now.

I think many...actually most here...have reacted negatively against W's migra overtures. All the Pubbies I speak to here in Marsha Blackburn's district are not too keen on what they fear will become amnesty and will open the doors for the continuing tidal wave.

Just my opinion...we did have a poll here some time back where only 7% advocated amnesty and open borders (I think)

PS: When I got papers for my ex-wife....Brasilian ....I got nothing but grief and spent 5K to get her through the tourist-temporary-resident hoops after marriage and two children. There is no sympathy for peckerwoods at INS.


687 posted on 02/11/2005 2:09:40 PM PST by wardaddy (I don't think Muslims are good for America....just a gut instinct thing.)
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To: William Gheen
Mr. Gheen you are a liar and a fraud and "Conservative Voice" is a joke.

No telling what it was yesterday (though the fact it appears mostly inhabited by DUs must be considered), but today it has certainley been ruled irrellevant thanks to your amatuerish hit piece.

I hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes.

688 posted on 02/11/2005 2:10:20 PM PST by 4woodenboats (I see Dead People - and they voted in Seattle!! Rossi 3peat in 2005!)
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To: Jim Robinson
The fact he is using tactics his own users would find unethical to censor articles and silence opposition with banishments and intimidation is of great concern to all of us as Americans.

Here is the part that makes clear what a sham the article is. This is a private site run by a private owner with funds from voluntary supporters. If Jim didn't want people talking about a subject in his house for WHATEVER reason, it would not be of concern to any Americans. It's Jim's site and he can do whatever he wants to do. It's not like this is a newspaper or government organization or anything else. What goes on on FR is not a problem for any Americans. If you don't like it, don't FReep.

I suspect it's only an issue to "The Conservative Voice" because they are trying to spread division. Problem is, they don't know how smart FReepers are.

Shalom.

689 posted on 02/11/2005 2:10:26 PM PST by ArGee (Having homosexual sex makes as much sense as drinking beer through your a$$.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you for posting this. I oppose open borders.


690 posted on 02/11/2005 2:11:11 PM PST by afnamvet (31st Air Wing Tuy Hoa AFB RVN 68-69 "Return with Honor")
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To: My2Cents
As I stated in an earlier post on this thread, my observation over the past year has been that those who have been banned from FR were purged not so much for their position on the single issue of immigration, but because they were jerks whose rabid dissent of Bush in general was causing turmoil on FR.

Precisely.

691 posted on 02/11/2005 2:11:11 PM PST by prairiebreeze (George W Bush: Spending well-earned political capital.)
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To: Howlin
it does give TLBSHOW something to copy and paste over on LP.

Isn't that "El Pee"?

692 posted on 02/11/2005 2:12:32 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: Jim Robinson

Well I totally disagree with the "Bush guest worker program" and beleive our borders should be tightened, and I am still here. So either I have slipped through the cracks, or this is so much bovine scat.


693 posted on 02/11/2005 2:13:14 PM PST by DaiHuy (Jesus is Lord.)
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To: yarddog

"I don't know what the story is, maybe you are friends with the moderators.

I do know this: You have made many pretty outrageous statements and often attack the more conservative posters. You also ridicule others and also make it plain that you consider yourselves immune from any action.

Often you act as if FR is your own private attack engine. I don't know, maybe it is."




Really? I sometimes disagree with other posters on FR, but I don't remember ridiculing or attacking any of them. I don't know Jim Robinson, nor either of the other two people you addressed this too.

I'm just a member here. I try to obey Jim's rules. I've had one or two messages pulled, and I try to learn from that.

I do hit the Abuse button when someone advocates violence against others and when someone attacks FR, as happened today with the pimping of blogs.

If you have specific things to ask me about, ask away. I'll answer honestly.

We probably disagree on some issues. That's fine.


694 posted on 02/11/2005 2:13:52 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: dennisw

When did Joe Hadenuf get banned?


695 posted on 02/11/2005 2:14:07 PM PST by BJClinton (Kinky Friedman for Governor: Why the hell not?)
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To: yarddog

I agree.


696 posted on 02/11/2005 2:14:53 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: yarddog
Some of the posters on FR seem to be immune to being banned.

And some posters support FR financially. I'm not saying that regular financial support of FR is the reason some people don't get banned, but I'd be willing to bet that most of the incessant whiners and naysayers on FR, who use this site as a place to grind their particular axes, never give FR a dime.

697 posted on 02/11/2005 2:14:59 PM PST by My2Cents ("Friends stab you from the front." -- Oscar Wilde)
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To: BJClinton

A couple days ago.


698 posted on 02/11/2005 2:15:50 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: dennisw
"You name is on that thread over there"

Really?? I'm flattered. Trolls usually ignore me.

699 posted on 02/11/2005 2:16:10 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: Right Winged American
Uh, isn't freedom pretty much the underpinning of the American "Culture"? I live in Miami, all of my neighbors are of Central Americans or Cubans, and when they say "My country, I know what they mean in context ...

Maybe. I have asked for clarification from those I hear say it and they all say their country is "Peru" or "Columbia" or "mexico" not the United States.

Yes, freedom is the underpinning of our culture and our forefathers fought for it. It wasn't handed to them. "They" should go back and fight for it in their own country.

Freedom and Economic Opportunity pretty much go hand in hand. Can you name me a Country with economic opportunity that is not free?

True. So you admit they are not here for the freedom but rather the economic advantage. If the opposite were true they would be willing to fight for it in their home country. It would be far more honorable for them to fight for and win freedom in their own country raising the lives of their fellow countrymen rather than abandoning them by leaving for the U.S.

Sorry, you misunderstood; I was referring to the ... I suppose they were a Movement in pre-WWII America. Run a google on the "America Firsters" and you'll see what I meant.

I looked it up and don't see what you were referring to. Perhaps you could post a more clear explanation?

700 posted on 02/11/2005 2:16:17 PM PST by raybbr
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