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To: hchutch; Poohbah
I think that Poohbah's description of the problem has generally been on target in his area.

Are you 2 having your own conversation over there?

With all due respect, what the HELL are you talking about? Seriously this has nothing to do with the "true conservatives" criticizing. You are adding 2 + 2 and coming up with 22.

What in wide world of sports does John Warner and Leslie Byrne have to do with strident FR posters criticizing members of the Administration? Politicians play dirty tricks? "I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling going on here!"

That has nothing to do with these boogie men "true conservatives" not falling in line behind the GOP candidate, and how to best make them do so. I mean really, what is supposed to be your collective points here? If I played either of you in a board game of Clue I'd paste ya, you are all over the map.

1,047 posted on 07/12/2004 9:12:56 AM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (I am no longer afraid to publicly say I love Jesus, thanks Mel)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
That has nothing to do with these boogie men "true conservatives" not falling in line behind the GOP candidate, and how to best make them do so. I mean really, what is supposed to be your collective points here?

My point: quit referring to the self-proclaimed "true conservatives" as any sort of asset until they actually demonstrate that they are assets to anyone except the Democratic Party. They are nothing of the sort. Until they (a) realize that they are helping elect Democrats, and (b) that the Democrats are not supporting their issues, I am going to continue blasting them--assuming that they are sincere in their stated goals, which I am not entirely convinced of.

My experience, from several election campaigns, is that "true conservatives" will say anything to get into positions of trust in campaigns, and will then wreck the campaign at the 11th hour, all because the candidate is insufficiently pure. Hell, at one point, they did it to Bill Simon's campaign--and if Bill Simon isn't pure enough for them, nobody is.

If these self-proclaimed "true conservatives" spent their energy doing this to Democrats, this state would be a GOP lock. The fact that they spend their energy on clobbering the GOP makes me intensely suspicious.

1,048 posted on 07/12/2004 9:23:04 AM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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