To: x; FLT-bird; marktwain; DiogenesLamp; HandyDandy
x to FLT-bird:
"Slave states weren't happy about free states blocking the return of runaways.
When they had the upper hand they weren't opposed to federal overreach, as in Taney's Dred Scott opinion.
But you repeat it as a dogma that they were all about state sovereignty." Among the far-reaching anti-states' rights affects of Crazy Roger's Dred Scott opinions were:
- Crazy Roger not only invalidated the 1820 Missouri Compromise, by which Congress outlawed slavery in territories north of the 36d 30s parallel (except Missouri), but he also overturned territories' rights to outlaw slavery.
- Crazy Roger outlawed states-rights to make African Americans citizens, with associated citizens' rights of voting and bearing arms, etc.
- Crazy Roger not only confirmed the Compromise of 1850 federal authority over states' rights in the return of fugitive slaves, he also
- Extended "slaveholder rights" into Northern free states.
"Slaveholder rights" included legal slave codes and slaveholder authorities to impose punishments as enforcements.
In other words, Crazy Roger effectively outlawed the Northern states-rights to prevent slaveholders from committing assault, battery, false imprisonment, domestic violence and other abuses, including sexual against slaves.
Bottom line: Southern concerns for
"states' rights" never extended north of the Mason-Dixon line.
The tan colored areas below are US territories in which Crazy Roger declared that neither they nor Congress could outlaw slavery.
Notice that Kansas is blue in 1861, but prior to 1860, Kansas was ruled by Crazy Roger's opinion that territories could not legally abolish slavery.
104 posted on
05/05/2024 6:18:16 AM PDT by
BroJoeK
(future DDG 134 -- we remember)
To: BroJoeK
1. Crazy Roger ...2. Crazy Roger ...
3. Crazy Roger ...
How do you take someone seriously when their tendency is to just call names rather than grant any credibility to their opponent's arguments?
I don't think Roger Taney was crazy, I think he just operated under a different set of premises than other people at the time wanted to accept.
Our modern era is somewhat similar. Nowadays in the Liberal circles, if you don't accept that a biological male can become a "woman", they consider you crazy.
The same people who thought Taney was crazy then, were the very same liberals, living in the liberal parts of the country, and pushing social boundaries, just as they are doing today.
107 posted on
05/05/2024 8:35:20 AM PDT by
DiogenesLamp
("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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