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The U.S. Army Can't Get Ambushed by the Future
The National Interest ^ | 3/22/17 | Douglas Macgregor

Posted on 03/03/2024 6:50:04 AM PST by hardspunned

When U.S. forces begin the destruction of the Islamic State, it will defend its territory—its so-called caliphate—and “hold ground.” Without air and missile defenses, or rocket artillery and mobile armored forces with accurate, devastating firepower, “holding ground” is the only option. U.S. air and ground forces with token “allied and partner” participation will methodically grind Islamic State fighters out of existence. “Holding ground” will be a death sentence for ISIS. However, the destruction of ISIS belongs to the past; battles between the U.S. armed forces and insurgent enemies without armies, air forces or air defenses. Future battle will be different.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: douglasmacgregor; putinista
It appears this guy has crystal ball. Maybe someone in DC should listen to him today.
1 posted on 03/03/2024 6:50:04 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

Ret. General Douglas Macgregor is full of shit.

He is almost never right. And is arrogant.


2 posted on 03/03/2024 7:00:51 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: hardspunned

Woke military will kill very well, maybe their own side. (I have to point out the their/them pun or you might not get it).

But the retired general considers battles will be as in Yemen or Ukraine. Me thinks they will be in Europe, intra-city. That’s the future battlefield scenario. But it would certainly be racist to consider it so we ought focus on white religious nationalism and do pushups from the knees, if you have the espirit de corp.


3 posted on 03/03/2024 7:05:04 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: hardspunned

Uh-huh. Yeah. Right.


4 posted on 03/03/2024 7:05:41 AM PST by Flatus I. Maximus (VOTE BIDEN 2024! Too senile to stand trial but good enough to run the country!)
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To: hardspunned

Having spent a career in the military industrial complex I can attest that equipment, technology and systems do not always get procured because they are the thing that is needed. Such factors as whose districts are involved count. Factors like prestige, corruption and politics are heavily involved. As one Airforce general said in the fifties, unless the next jet is faster and flies higher than the last one, don’t even show it to me.

An example of this is how plate armor stayed around long after its utility on the battlefield was gone. The way it looked followed the fashion of the day, with first pointed feet and then blunt feet. It had become a status symbol. What the modern battlefield needs is artillery shells but look at the debates in the halls of finance and artillery shells take a distant seat from sexier items like stealth.

Eventually, reality wins out, but not before a lot of lives are lost due to political factors.


5 posted on 03/03/2024 7:19:20 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Texas Fossil

You know more the Abrams and its potential and short comings than this guy. Laughable.


6 posted on 03/03/2024 7:36:28 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

I never mentioned a single weapon.

My opinion of him is from viewing multiple interview of him by Tucker Carlson and from reading some of his views of the US Military.

He is full of crap. and of himself.


7 posted on 03/03/2024 7:39:36 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

You know, there’s this thing called the Ukraine war going on that confirms what he wrote 7 years ago. You stick with Karine Jean Pierre’s analysis, I’ll take the guy in the lead tank of his battalion of tanks in the Desert Storm offensive.


8 posted on 03/03/2024 7:41:57 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It

Did you read the entire article? It appears not.


9 posted on 03/03/2024 7:43:18 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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This is why more money without new leadership won’t fix the Army.

The answer is always "more money." Replace the word "Army" with any Fed.gov agency or department, and you describe the present state of US Federal Government.

10 posted on 03/03/2024 7:50:58 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Texas Fossil

Minor detail, he is a retired bird colonel.


11 posted on 03/03/2024 7:51:46 AM PST by Redleg Duke (“Who is John Galt?”)
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To: hardspunned

22 March 2017. A lifetime ago...


12 posted on 03/03/2024 7:58:48 AM PST by Thunder 6 (Panzer, los geht's!)
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To: PGR88
We're nearly to the point where the answer is no longer "more money." We're adding a trillion dollars to the debt every four months, and the annual debt service is now more than the defense budget.

The military is horrible in the way they can't audit where the money goes. A bit O/T, but at the ripe old age of 25, I was the S-4 (Supply Officer) of my Battalion in Germany: 6/56 ADA, motto "Night Hides Not". Rarely have I been so perfectly ensconced in a job. I had been in the battalion for 3+ years, and my bachelors degree was Public Accounting, nearly 40 semester hours. What made my education unique was the professor never used numbers. It taught us to dwell on the underlying theory, not whether the numbers balanced. I'm still drawing on that experience today. Nearly 70, I'm working in the Tax Department of a large real estate company in Dallas.

As a First LT, I was advising field grade officers on what they could, and could not, do in budgetary matters. My job was easy, basically keep track of seven "checking accounts" on how our funds were spent.

It was a heady role, as I was also designated to negotiate the Interservice Support Agreement at Spangdahlem AB.

When I returned to Fort Bliss, my Battalion Cdr met up with me, offering an Operations Officer job to me, which I immediately accepted. Worked for him another glorious 18 months.

Apologies for going O/T, but I'm one of many here at FR who see the fiscal train wreck coming.

13 posted on 03/03/2024 8:18:11 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Gen.Blather

No one really wants to hear that. That’s “unpatriotic”. The poor grunt in the field pays the price.


14 posted on 03/03/2024 8:28:14 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned
The poor grunt in the field pays the price.

They always pay the price. My "trump card" was that I knew I would never make it to 20, so I was a PITA when it came to dealing with bull$hit.

15 posted on 03/03/2024 8:34:31 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: hardspunned
"The U.S. Army Can't Get Ambushed by the Future" Sure they can. The verb he should have used is "mustn't."
16 posted on 03/03/2024 8:36:17 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Paal Gulli

Mustn’t doesn’t apply now. Seven years after Macgregor wrote this we find out on the Uke battlefields and in the Red Sea that the ambushed happened while we weren’t paying attention. I don’t know about you but I’m stunned by the vulnerability of weapon systems we’ve invested so heavily in. Gunboat diplomacy is kaput and drones have been like introducing the Maxim machine gun. It’s a whole new ballgame.


17 posted on 03/03/2024 8:47:57 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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