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I did not see this coming but I are loving it.
1 posted on 01/31/2024 12:15:51 AM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Reporting “witnesses “ were lying PenceofSchiff


2 posted on 01/31/2024 12:25:55 AM PST by A strike (Words can have gender, humans cannot.)
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To: Morgana

The moments of discomfort he felt were nothing compared with the agony of the woman he savagely stabbed to death.


3 posted on 01/31/2024 12:28:50 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "democracy" like trying to throw your opponent in jail.)
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To: Morgana

I have never understood why it seems difficult to execute some one by lethal injection.

If you have ever had surgery they give you enough of some type of drug that knocks you out and keeps you out for a period time, you feel nothing until they wake you up.

I’ve had two colonoscopies, each time they gave me Propofol which is what killed Michael Jackson, it puts you out and you feel nothing while the procedure is going on, if you were given a larger dose it would kill you.

It seems to me someone being executed by lethal injection could be given an IV of propofol until they go under, then given an increasing amount until they are dead, they would feel nothing and the procedure would be over quickly.


7 posted on 01/31/2024 1:22:12 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: Morgana
Three of the Supreme Court justices dissented, with Justice Sonia Sotomayor writing, “Having failed to kill Smith on its first attempt, Alabama has selected him as its ‘guinea pig’ to test a method of execution never attempted before. The world is watching.”

The U.S. Constitution prescribes death for treason. I guess we’ll just have to use whatever methods of execution were widely used in 1788 when the Constitution was ratified. If they considered hanging or firing squads to be cruel or unusual, you’d think they’d have specifically barred those methods for executing traitors.

11 posted on 01/31/2024 2:25:46 AM PST by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: Morgana

I don’t know. Sounds cruel and it definitely was unusual. And this is how they want people to self-terminate?


14 posted on 01/31/2024 3:15:59 AM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Morgana

It’s inexpensive and it worked and readily available. If there is an issue of the amount of time and distress the execution takes, simply knock the prisoner out with a common drug such as propofol and proceed with the face masking and introduction of the inert nitrogen.

There’s always garroting which is much less expensive than building a gallows. A fancy garroting chair isn’t necessary, a length of stout rope a well placed pole and a length of pipe (ax handles might break). Tie the rope together with an approved knot and slip the bar into place behind the post and twist.

One could even employ the Spanish Inquisition method where they could be burned at the stake or if they confess they could be garrotted before the fires are lit.

Terrible incentive but publicly persuasive nonetheless.


16 posted on 01/31/2024 3:45:18 AM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: Morgana

Since he had beaten the previous execution event, I bet he was trying to thwart this one, too. He likely held his breath until his body’s automatic reactions took over, causing the thrashing and deep breaths.


18 posted on 01/31/2024 4:06:41 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (The power of the press is not in what it includes, rather, it's in that which is omitted.)
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To: Morgana

No way we can know, but knowing what we do about hypoxia and death by nitrogen, this guy’s antics don’t fit.

I think it’s a good possibility he threw a fit to make it look bad because he was so against it. “I’ll throw a fit and they will never know I’m doing this - this is my final act I can do to protest the procedure. So I’ll give it all I can to look bad.”

He succeeded.

And no one knows what really happened.

Could be the ultimate lie.......on his way out......


21 posted on 01/31/2024 5:08:07 AM PST by Arlis
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Why don’t they use fentanyl? It is quite deadly and there seems to be an abundance of it streaming across the border. People who OD on it just drift away with the needle still in their arm. Fentanyl is also used by anesthetists in hospitals. It works really well.


22 posted on 01/31/2024 5:11:46 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Morgana

Firing squad should be used. Quick cheap and sure.


25 posted on 01/31/2024 5:23:09 AM PST by weezel
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To: Morgana

The witnesses lied through their teeth. They are all anti-death penalty stooges and went off the same script.

Dude held his breath and thrashed. He held it quite awhile. Finally he was forced to breath it in, and lost consciousness in seconds.

Then died.

THAT’S what happens when you breath pure Nitrogen in.

Holding your breath a long time is painful. But it’s not painful, at all, from lack of Oxygen. It’s painful from the build up of CO2 in your blood, which can’t be released because you stopped exhaling. The buildup of CO2 in your blood changes the pH, lowers it, and that makes your body go, Woah!! What’s happening? This hurts!!

It’s the buildup of carbonic acid in your blood from CO2 that sux. Breathing out then in relieves the pain. Do it in pure nitrogen and the pain is gone instantly. CO2 is eliminated, and you basically pass out painlessly in moments. The passout is from lack of Oxygen, and it’s painless.

Yes, I’ve experienced it.

It’s the easiest way to croak, if you have to go that route.

(Pure CO, Carbon Monoxide, is even more one-way. Nitrogen suffocation can be reversed if you stop it within around 6-10 minutes. But 4 breaths of pure CO and you’re dead, period, even if you don’t know it yet. Can’t be reversed.)


26 posted on 01/31/2024 5:24:59 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Vivek for VP!!!!)
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To: Morgana

There seems to be an easy answer for this issue.

Common paralytics used for surgery include:

Succinylcholine
Rocuronium
Vecuronium
Mivacurium
Atracurium
Cisatracurium

so just give them any one of these in combination with the gas, and problem solved.


27 posted on 01/31/2024 5:25:25 AM PST by j_guru
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I too have had a recent colonoscopy and whatever they used, I was “out” in seconds. However, the drug was given by IV and starting an IV has been the whole problem with lethal injection as a means of capital punishment. Nitrogen should have rendered him unconscious immediately and it may have been the way it was administered or the inmate holding his breath that caused the mess. Industrial accidents with nitrogen seem to have caused the victims to rapidly lose consciousness.


32 posted on 01/31/2024 8:07:37 AM PST by The Great RJ ( )
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