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Unexplained child pneumonia cases spike in parts of Europe as alarming surge continues in China
ny post ^ | 11/29/2023

Posted on 11/29/2023 7:54:34 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

I’m going to hazard a prediction that the problem doesn’t manifest here in the states.

Low jab rate among children first and foremost as the reason.


21 posted on 11/29/2023 8:30:54 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Dr Malone said this is simply REGULAR childhood cases.

But, I agree w/you....about the jab rate effecting these numbers....just as real scientists said would happen.


22 posted on 11/29/2023 8:32:49 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: BenLurkin

Another plandemic just as we enter an election year!


23 posted on 11/29/2023 8:34:32 AM PST by Kazan
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To: pas

Wikipedia says this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumococcal_vaccine#The_Netherlands

>The national vaccination program started including the pneumococcal vaccine for newborns in April 2006.[15]


24 posted on 11/29/2023 8:39:43 AM PST by Krosan
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To: BenLurkin

“unexplained”???

Let me help them out: ChinaVirus 2.0. Almost identical timing to version 1.0 (aka - COVID) - and just as promised by Bill Gates and company: this one has a much greater impact on children... just as prescribed...

Oh - and conveniently to set us up for #ElectionFraud 2024... just like they did for #ElectionFraud2020.


25 posted on 11/29/2023 8:46:01 AM PST by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: mikelets456

Or maybe its just another bio weapon released by China to screw up US elections and further attack the rest of the world. We already know that China has no moral objection to sacrificing their own people on the battleground against the West.


26 posted on 11/29/2023 8:46:52 AM PST by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: BenLurkin; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ..
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

The false positive rate was 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

Quarantine the sick. Protect the vulnerable. Hang the guilty. Free everyone else.


27 posted on 11/29/2023 8:53:35 AM PST by null and void (If you support monsters you will die in the cross fire.)
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To: BenLurkin

Pneumonia is a blanket diagnostic term for a variety of lung infections.

There is an epidemic of Mycoplasma pneumoniae infections.

I believe that I had it. It started with a tickle in the trachea, excess phlegm, a slight cough. Later mild tracheobronchitis, and now mild laryngitis without a sore throat or any other discomfort.

In most cases it is mild and resolves without medical intervention.


28 posted on 11/29/2023 9:01:23 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: null and void; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Infectious Disease ping - Pneumonia like symptom spreading in Europe among young children (especially ages 5 - 15 years old)
This substance of this study is out of the Netherlands, and demonstrates an approximately 25% increase among children as compared with previous years

"Last week, 80 out of every 100,000 children in the Netherlands between ages 5 and 15 were treated for pneumonia,
reported the Netherlands Institute for Health Services Research (NIVEL)."

" Pneumonia cases among tots ages 4 and under were also on the rise, jumping from 124 to 145 per 100,000."
This is the biggest pneumonia outbreak the Utrecht-based research institute has recorded in recent years."

"For comparison, at the height of the flu season in 2022, there were 60 recorded cases of every 100,000 children in the 5-to-15 age group."

29 posted on 11/29/2023 9:13:08 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Krosan

Could be part of it. Another factor is isolation prevented kids from being exposed to the usual suite of early childhood illnesses and developing robust immune systems.

It also may not be out of the blue, but out of Wuhan. It could be that the Chinese realized that we don’t revere the elderly as much as they do and decided to try something that infects children preferentially.


30 posted on 11/29/2023 9:29:11 AM PST by null and void (If you support monsters you will die in the cross fire.)
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To: mikelets456

That’s exactly what went thru my head.


31 posted on 11/29/2023 9:29:24 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FarCenter

I had myco pnuemonia back at the end of 2019..just before the China Crud. It took a long time to get rid of it - a round of Z-packs finally took care of it. It is a bacterial infection, not a virus. You do have some immunity for a while after getting it.


32 posted on 11/29/2023 9:29:38 AM PST by kaktuskid
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To: null and void

That’s a keeper.


33 posted on 11/29/2023 9:30:30 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: null and void

Govt “health” advice => Spot on 😡


34 posted on 11/29/2023 9:31:32 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: Yo-Yo

As you say...


35 posted on 11/29/2023 9:36:02 AM PST by null and void (If you support monsters you will die in the cross fire.)
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To: FarCenter

It is my understanding that this variant(?) one doesn’t have the typical symptoms. One has a fever and tiredness, but no realization it is pneumonia.

Reports out of China are saying ER wait times are hitting 3 days...3 day wait to just see the doctor. Shorter times in some areas, but in the city you have to sit and wait.

China is saying it is because they locked people down too long and weakened the immune system.


36 posted on 11/29/2023 11:49:13 AM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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To: mikelets456

Pneumonia is a broad diagnosis relative to lung tissue. Pneumonia vaccine is against pneumococcal pneumonia … a specific bacteria. The tetravslent pneumonia vaccine vaccinated against other species but I can’t recall them off the top of my head.

Thus, it is possible to get pneumonia related to other bacterial species or viral agents … pneumococcus is a particularly bad actor in people with diseased lungs from things like COPD to begin with.


37 posted on 11/29/2023 11:50:35 AM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: null and void

It isn’t out of Wuhan.

Bejing and Lioning

UNDIAGNOSED PNEUMONIA - CHINA (04): (BEIJING, LIAONING) CHILDREN, REPORTED EPIDEMIC
https://promedmail.org/

Date: Thu 23 Nov 2023 09:08 EST
Source: BBC [edited]
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-67505218

China has reported no “unusual or novel pathogens” in clusters of child pneumonia cases, the World Health Organization (WHO) has said. Beijing has attributed a rise in flu-like illnesses to the lifting of COVID-19 curbs, said the WHO, which had requested for more data on the cases. Still it urged residents in China to take precautions, like getting vaccinated and wearing masks. Local media had in recent days reported hospitals being overwhelmed.

In a statement on Wednesday [22 Nov 2023], the WHO said it requested China for more information on reports in the media and from ProMED — a global outbreak surveillance system — of “clusters of undiagnosed pneumonia in children in northern China.” Pneumonia is a general medical term used to describe an infection and inflammation of the lungs. It can be caused by many different viruses, bacteria or fungi.

After the WHO’s request, state-run Xinhua news agency published an article which quoted officials of China’s National Health Commission (NHC) as saying they were paying close attention to the diagnosis and care of children with respiratory illnesses.

Later on Thursday [23 Nov 2023], the WHO said in a statement that China has not detected any “unusual or novel pathogens,” and that the increase in respiratory illnesses spreading in the north of the country was due to “multiple known pathogens.” Since October 2023, northern China has reported an “increase in influenza-like illness” compared to the same period over the past 3 years, the WHO said. “Some of these increases are earlier in the season than historically experienced, but not unexpected given the lifting of COVID-19 restrictions, as similarly experienced in other countries,” the statement said.

The WHO said it is “closely monitoring the situation and is in close contact with national authorities in China”. While mentions of China and a wave of infection can get people jittery as it brings memories of the COVID-19 pandemic, it is good practice for the WHO to ask for clarity.

(excerpt) Multiple reports at link


38 posted on 11/29/2023 11:58:49 AM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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To: EBH

Date: Thu 23 Nov 2023 15:26 ICT
Source: Tuoi Tre News [edited]
https://tuoitrenews.vn/news/society/20231123/child-respiratory-infections-rising-across-southern-vietnam/76905.html

Health authorities have reported an increase in respiratory infections among children in Viet Nam’s southern provinces and cities from October [2023] compared to previous months, a trend typically observed toward the end of every year.

The significant influx of children with respiratory diseases has prompted children’s hospitals to expand their bed capacity and bolster medical personnel.

Since early October [2023], respiratory diseases have topped 1100 cases among the daily average visits of nearly 2000 pediatric patients at Can Tho Children’s Hospital in the Mekong Delta region of southern Viet Nam, the hospital said on Tuesday [21 Nov 2023].

Doctor Ong Huy Thanh, deputy director of the hospital, noted that pediatric patients have been primarily hospitalized for pneumonia, bronchial asthma, and severe respiratory infections.

During peak times, up to 200 cases require hospitalization per day, necessitating shared beds in some instances. Therefore, the hospital’s respiratory department has added around 180 beds.

The hospital also arranges for patients to stay temporarily in other departments with lower patient numbers to alleviate the crowding. Certain areas are designated for patients at risk of cross-infection to minimize the spread of illnesses.

Encouragingly, in the past week, the hospitalizations for pediatric respiratory infections have decreased, averaging out at around 130 cases per day.


39 posted on 11/29/2023 12:00:56 PM PST by EBH (America Blackmailed, The True Story of the World War...Coming Soon (1/21-))
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To: null and void

Ya, I made the mistake of my wife getting the pn vax recently. I got one about 5 years ago, nothing. But I hear they are changing all that type of vax to include the covid vax


40 posted on 11/29/2023 12:09:20 PM PST by norsky (<P> <a href= > </a> <P><h3> <P><img src=" "width=500"></img>)
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