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Acres in a Loaf of Bread
Common Grain Alliance ^ | 2020 | Heather Coiner

Posted on 10/17/2023 8:44:11 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom

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To: desertsolitaire

I don’t. Just flour, water, salt and starter (which is just flour and water) — the bread lasts about a week in the fridge. Have not had any mold or spoilage problem.


21 posted on 10/17/2023 12:27:54 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; desertsolitaire

Agreed — avoid chemicals by home baking. I also make sure the flour has no additives and not been bleached.

I bought large plastic storage bags and bag clips on Amazon. They work really well. I squeeze out as much air as I can from the bag before clipping it shut. I have no idea if removing that air helps or not.


22 posted on 10/17/2023 12:30:06 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: marktwain
Interesting. I consume no wheat at all due to gluten intolerance. I can't imagine consuming a 1 lb loaf of bread each day. I eat 1250 calories 5 days a week, 600 calories 2 days a week. Some days during the week I include a half cup of cooked white rice in the calorie count. It's currently 1:45 PM. I've been working since 8 AM on a 160 calorie Premier Protein chocolate shake and a cup of coffee.
23 posted on 10/17/2023 12:46:27 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Disambiguator
We've got a "Natural Grocers" down the road plus the two local stores, "Pilgrim's Market" and "The Flour Mill." All carry bulk grains and flours, but there usually aren't any specs.

I've found that buying flour directly from the flour mill is best, but the shipping fees are horrendous - often as nearly much as the flour. I have Prime on Amazon and can get some flours shipped "free" (after buying Prime).

I just bought some flour at "Azure Market Organics Unbleached Bread Flour, Ultra-Unifine, Organic." The cool thing is their wheat comes from an Idaho farm not far down the road!

Azure Market Organics Unbleached Bread Flour Ultra-Unifine is made from heritage varieties of hard red wheat from our close friends at Jenkins Creek Ranch in Idaho. This heritage wheat has the highest concentration of protein of any flour you can find in the US. At 16 percent, it’s got plenty of gluten to make a light, deliciously crusty loaf every time. It is milled using our Unifine process, and then sifted to remove some of the bran, resulting in a light, white flour. This results in a finished product that has softer flavor notes, rises better and adds a little lightness to your artisan breads.
They use a "Drop" shipment method where they load up a semi truck with orders all over the Northwest (maybe farther, too) and make a circuit. You pick a drop location (I have three within a couple miles) and then show up to pick up your order. I'm trying the Drop Ship for the first time and pick up my order next Sunday at a local church. I'm using "Judy's Drop" -- apparently anybody can sign up to be a drop "agent."

I first heard about "Azure Standard" from FRiend "Disambiguator." Then, independently, I learned bout the "Unifine" milling process which led me to find the Azure Standard flour.

Here's a good article on "Unifine" milling.
Why Azure Mill's Unifine Flours are Better for You

Here's another good article from Washington State University on the "Unifine" milling process and how it got from England to WSU:
The lost and found flourmill

Lastly, here's a good article about flour mills in Washington's Skagit Valley north of Seattle.
How Two Mills in the Pacific Northwest Are Revolutionizing the Business of Flour

24 posted on 10/17/2023 12:47:09 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thanks for the info! Ill keep looking. I have Prime - didn’t think about buying flour that way.


25 posted on 10/17/2023 12:49:49 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Ellendra; Tilted Irish Kilt
Diana; I (we) do not make a lot of bread so, just keep looking at the Electric Wondermill model. (No thanks to the hand crank. ) It accepts other grains as well. I think they have a demo video of them running 1000 lbs wheat through in 10 hours without it over heating.

Wondermill Grain Mill

You might be able to get the grain locally at a Coop, but if not here are a couple of sources. There are more.

25 Lb Bag Hard Red Wheat

Khorasan Grains

Drive by English lesson! The word "Lady" has its source in the Anglo-Saxon hlaf+dieg, 'loaf-kneader' or 'loaf-deliverer' An Anglo-Saxon wife of a warlord. The term eventually becomes modern English lady. In Beowulf, Weoltheow is the hlafdig at Heorot. Also called a hlaefdieg, hladig, or cwen. (Queen!)


26 posted on 10/17/2023 1:31:00 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Myrddin
If I eat less than 2500 calories a day, I lose weight.

People who work physically hard, consume thousands of calories a day, especially in cold climates.

Working hard outside in weather lower than 57 degrees F, an average man needs to consume 4,500 calories a day.

27 posted on 10/17/2023 2:39:48 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Myrddin

According to a quick look online, a 1 lb loaf of bread is about 1200 calories.


28 posted on 10/17/2023 2:47:15 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I made a recipe similar to the one you posted last week using up a lot of my sourdough discard

Maruizio Leo runs a great blog called "The Perfect Loaf." His Beginners Sourdough Bread is fantastic. It doesn't require traditional kneading, just gentle "Stretch and Folds" over a period of time. You first mix just the flour and water and let it sit for an hour or so (an "autolyze"). Then you do the Stretch and Folds every 30 minutes for the first couple hours. After that, you let it proof at room temp for a while before moving it to the fridge for slower overnight proofing. You bake it the next morning. It's really good.

His blog is excellent. He's a smart guy and a good writer, plus whoever does his web presentations and videos is doing great production work.

29 posted on 10/17/2023 2:50:30 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I stopped making bread. It was too good. I ate too much of it.


30 posted on 10/17/2023 2:58:16 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’m glad you like the whole Azure thing. They’re an amazing outfit.


31 posted on 10/17/2023 2:59:53 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I watch some farmer videos and see the work that goes into growing wheat and soybeans. One farm family in Nebraska makes about $465,000 from youtube videos selling ads and t-shirts, hats, mugs. Another in Minnesota makes $1.5 million doing the same. They are also farming youtube : )


32 posted on 10/17/2023 3:51:43 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound

Wow, astonishing.

I was watching some farming vids last year of young ladies on the farm. They were still in their teens working with dad and driving the biggest equipment.

The number of baking video authors on YT is astonishing. Lots are VERY good, many are so-so. The best have great graphics, excellent scripts, super video work. They make it look real easy. There are good baker vids from Germany, England, US, and Australia. All are “Amazon Affiliates” where, if you buy through a click on their links, they earn a commission fee.


33 posted on 10/17/2023 4:19:10 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Interesting calculations.

When people say they will just grow a garden should the SHTF and grocery stories shut down, you know they have never worked a garden in their entire life. It takes a lot of land and a lot of knowledge and very, very HARD work to produce garden products enough to make a dent in the amount of calories an adult person needs to consume each day. That hard clay soil covered by sod on the .8 acre ain’t gonna do it!


34 posted on 10/17/2023 4:35:42 PM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

That brings to mind the NYT no-knead bread recipe that caused such a stir a few years ago:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/03/dining/no-knead-bread-recipes.html

It’s so easy that it feels like cheating and the results are pretty amazing.


35 posted on 10/17/2023 5:05:22 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: CFW

“That hard clay soil covered by sod on the .8 acre ain’t gonna do it!”

Hey, you must live in our neighborhood!

If you don’t have clay, you have glacial moraine which is all rock and sand. A generous builder will provide you with a 1” skim of something they CALL “topsoil.”


36 posted on 10/17/2023 5:18:44 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: Yardstick

Thanks for that article link! All my browsers were maxed out on NYT page reads and it still wouldn’t load after clearing cookies. Then I found the “Bypass Paywalls Chrome Clean” project on Github, downloaded it, installed it in Chrome and Voila! It worked.

It’s a great article. It’s a super summary of everything I’ve been doing. Thanks for providing that!


37 posted on 10/17/2023 5:47:18 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You are welcome!


38 posted on 10/17/2023 6:18:18 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: marktwain
I'm planted at my desk writing software from 8 AM to midnight exclusive of 60 to 90 minutes to go to dinner with my wife. Mowing the lawn is the upper limit of physical labor during the Summer. Shoveling snow off the driveway in the Winter. I have to keep my inputs limited to match my activity level. Currently, 5 ft 11 in, 155 lbs. My daily protein target is 92 grams. Carbs 122 grams. Fat 40 grams. I often miss my carb target...sometimes as little as 40 grams.

Pocatello, ID can be a cold climate. Lowest on my property since 2000 was -27F. It's common to have a week near -15F in early December. It's a bit warm this year. We should be subfreezing for the last 2 weeks of October in preparation for the first snow accumulation on Oct 31.

39 posted on 10/17/2023 6:18:26 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Thanks! :)


40 posted on 10/17/2023 6:58:51 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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