Clay & Buck, the primaries & the general election campaign

Self [Vanity] | 01 Jun 2023 | Self [Vanity]

[LS]

Dave (Littleboi) Reboi, Mike (Circle the Draino) Cernovich, Bill (Shill) Mitchell are in there.

[dware]

CIA plants. I miss Rush. He’d be PISSED if he knew what happened with his show.

[dware]

How did they get this cushy gig ‘taking over’ for Rush, as if anyone could?

CIA plants.

Bongino is ok

Just another bloviating blowhard connected to the establishment. Hannity & Levin, too. Every one of them, worthless. Any good commentator would have walked away from Faux News a long time ago.

[wardaddy]

Buck can be informed

Clay who is basically just a Republican sportscaster and lawyer is just rah rah and poorly informed

They simply don’t get the gravity of where we are

[dfwgator]

They are all actors playing a role, saying what they think their audience wants to hear.

[wardaddy]

Naturally you feel that way X

You guys all fly from the same nest don’t you

[usconservative]

One word: UNLISTENABLE.

[FreeReign]

1) They concede that there was massive vote fraud in 2020 2) But they claim talking about it turns voters off (how?!?) 3) Instead of talking about vote fraud they want to talk about issues, ballot harvesting, ground game. 4) Clay often claims that ‘talk of vote fraud is self-defeating.’ Again – how?!? 5) If there was vote fraud in 2020 and it isn’t addressed for 2024 then their daily show and all the debates are moot since fraud will overpower any issues or even the GOP candidate and his platform. That isn’t self-defeat…it’s defeat full stop. Guaranteed if something isn’t done about it.

Wow. The Obama voting, pro abortionist Clay & CIA Buck pushing the illogical DeSantis talking point about ignoring the 2020 Steal.

What a sh*t show that is.

What conservative would listen to that?

[dforest]

Tyrmand?

[FreeReign]

why no names? i recognize a few one of the bearded guys use to appear on warroom billed as a polish journalist he was on the project veritas board and was involved in kicking out James okeefe

Tyrmand.

Yes, Tyramand is the big DeSantis guy who sacked O'Keefe.

[FreeReign]

Talk about Trump getting cheated in 2020 does turn off voters, but talking about problems with elections and changes that need to be made implicitly includes a recognition of the problems with the 2020 election. It’s looking forward, though, rather than backwards and making the issue about something more than Donald Trump.

The 2020 Steal is a much larger issue than Donald Trump. It's about having an honest 2024 election. The 2020 Steal should be discussed until the problems of 2020 are remedied.

Those who refrain from talking about it because they think it would turn off the voters, will be the ones who cost us the 2024 election.

Can't address the potential 2024 fraud without mentioning the 2020 Steal.

[x]

As I said, talking about ballot harvesting and ballot security implies that things went wrong in 2020, but it focuses on what can be changed now, not on the past. Plus, if 2020 is any indication, there's no guarantee that Trump will fix anything, but only complain afterwards.

[FreeReign]

As I said, talking about ballot harvesting and ballot security implies that things went wrong in 2020, but it focuses on what can be changed now, not on the past.

Why "imply"?

Getting things fixed requires an all out effort. The complete process should be something like:

1.) Talk about who cheated. 2.) Talk about how they cheated. 3.) Take action (the most difficult step) to stop the cheating so that it doesn't happen in the 2024 election.

It's a difficult task. There's no reason to skimp on any of those three steps.

Plus, if 2020 is any indication, there's no guarantee that Trump will fix anything, but only complain afterwards.

So the only time you want to look back at the 2020 stolen election is to blame Trump?

Trump patriotically, peacefully and legally fought the stolen election in all the swing states, through to January 6th. Where was citizen DeSantis during all of that?

And now, at the very least, Trump talks about how and by whom the election was stolen in the swing states. DeSantis, won't even talk about it.

Good luck with the implying and skimping.

[relictele]

Agreed.

Clay has many irons in the fire and travels quite a bit. He admits to reading the NY Times, Washington Post & WSJ every day but is that show prep or merely sampling the conventional wisdom?

Neither one seems keen on exploring networks of groups & individuals who have produced and, crucially, financed the deep state, the DEI/CRT/ESG cartel and even more sinister initiatives.

Not everyone needs to be a Glenn Beck or Alex Jones but some connecting of obvious dots is in order.

Also in order is ignoring the airheads/racists/shrews on MSNBC & The View. Yet their moronic utterances are regularly repeated on the C&B show as fodder for ‘How dumb are these women?’ Of course they’re dumb! We don’t need to hear the quotes to know that.

[relictele]

Agreed.

It’s been much worse lately as his breathless first question is typically ‘How soon do you think Trump will be indicted?’ or ‘When do you expect Trump to be jailed?’

[x]

Where was Trump before election day when the Democrats were orchestrating the fraud? What did he do to prevent it or stop it or counteract it? Complaining afterwards and blaming everyone else does nothing.

There’s no sign Trump will be focused and proactive in this cycle, and he’s already alienated the people he would need to fix things.

We all know the Democrats cheated, but even for a lot of Trump voters, going on and on about 2020 is a reminder of the mistakes Trump made in that campaign. The rest of the country, though, isn’t going to be convinced and doesn’t want to hear about it.

[FreeReign]

Where was Trump before election day when the Democrats were orchestrating the fraud? What did he do to prevent it or stop it or counteract it? Complaining afterwards and blaming everyone else does nothing.

Trump filed 62 cases both BEFORE and after the election. When he filed them before he was told that his cases weren't ripe or he didn't have standing. When he filed them after, he was told that it was too late, or he didn't have standing. I believe only two of the cases went to evidendiatary hearings. He won one of those only to be overturned by the Democrat PA SC.

There’s no sign Trump will be focused and proactive in this cycle, and he’s already alienated the people he would need to fix things.

DeSantis refuses to focus on the unresolved steal. There is less of a chance DeSantis will fix it.

We all know the Democrats cheated, but even for a lot of Trump voters, going on and on about 2020 is a reminder of the mistakes Trump made in that campaign. The rest of the country, though, isn’t going to be convinced and doesn’t want to hear about it.

You claim to speak for the "rest of the country". Rasmussen polling in April found that most people think that politicians are ignoring the cheating problem.

[wardaddy]

I get everything from podcasts now though I did watch Tucker snippets

[x]

Rasmussen polling in April found that most people think that politicians are ignoring the cheating problem.

Yes, but they tune out when Trump talks about how the election was stolen from him. They don't want to hear about it over and over again.

[Pelham]

“Perhaps he imagines he’s still in a courtroom bloviating “

I doubt that Clay Travis has ever tried even one case.