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Ancient fish teeth reveal earliest sign of cooking
BBC News ^ | Raffi Berg

Posted on 11/20/2022 10:38:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: Hieronymus

LOL


21 posted on 11/21/2022 8:00:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Larry Lucido

That’s why pilot fish always have jobs.


22 posted on 11/21/2022 8:01:41 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: 4yearlurker; frank ballenger; carcraft

Kinison died 30 years ago, and he was making fun of the first demise of the McRib. I doubt they’ll bring back the “keep the hot side hot and the cool side cool” thing, regardless.


23 posted on 11/21/2022 8:03:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Cooking is one of the things that all humans do.

Compound tool making is another.

Cooking interests me more because I am a cook so....

But it is curious because we are the only creature who does not fear fire. And of course fire is a prerequisite for cooking.

24 posted on 11/21/2022 8:11:41 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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To: SunkenCiv

I believe that the oldest cooking vessels were made of dung. Iirc


25 posted on 11/21/2022 8:21:59 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: SunkenCiv

RE: I doubt they’ll bring back the “keep the hot side hot and the cool side cool” thing,regardless.


When they had that type of burger on sale there was one they sold me that had a tiny patch of fresh blood on the plastic clamshell container on the cold side. That meant a fresh, hamburger blood drip had contacted the side with lettuce and tomato before the burger was heated. Dangerous.


26 posted on 11/21/2022 10:32:11 AM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: logi_cal869

Dung was used for fuel, even in cooking. Heat treatment/curing of dung made possible dung-based wattle-and-daub housing, which solved waste disposal I suppose.


27 posted on 11/21/2022 10:32:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Well, the fear is mitigated by our adapting everything we find, even if it takes generations to learn how.


28 posted on 11/21/2022 10:34:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yeah, I recalled wrong. What I was misremembering was the possible use of dung in much later ceramics.

They’d have to find organic samples in a very narrow range of deposits to be able to identify what was used for cooking so long ago.

But I can see the lower cooking temperatures achieved over a hot coal spit even >500k years ago without the higher temp direct flame effects on the teeth. I seriously doubt that indirect heat stone hearths were developed so early.

https://archive.archaeology.org/9711/newsbriefs/hearth.html


29 posted on 11/21/2022 12:41:06 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

It is very common to cook by wrapping the food in leaves and then covering that with mud.


30 posted on 11/21/2022 2:33:56 PM PST by GingisK
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To: logi_cal869
That happens to me all the time. Welcome to the club. I hold the local chapter meetings at my home here on Failing Memory Lane.

31 posted on 11/21/2022 5:30:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: GingisK

I could see that 100k years ago, but 780K? It’s a stretch, though in the realm of possibility.


32 posted on 11/21/2022 5:50:42 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869
Not really.

If you take a look at the bones of the people of the time you see no fangs, no claws, small jaws, small guts. Conclusion: we were cooking.

That is the only way we could have gotten enough calories to survive.

And pit cooking or stone cooking is a natural advance once you know how to control fire.

33 posted on 11/23/2022 11:49:51 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (The nation of france was named after a hedgehog... The hedgehog's name was Kevin... Don't ask)
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