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Mr. Massie questions why the Department of Education and the Department of Agriculture needs "Weapons of War"
twitter ^ | July 21 | Rep. Thomas Massie

Posted on 07/22/2022 7:06:04 AM PDT by RandFan

@RepThomasMassie

Democrats want to take guns away from law-abiding citizens, and arm the USDA and Dept. of Education with what they call “weapons of war.”

Who are they preparing to go to war with?

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: banglist; education; usda
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

They are trying to make it unavailable without legislation.


21 posted on 07/22/2022 8:50:10 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Leaning Right

The EPA also has armed enforcement.

I met one once through an aquaintance in a social setting while I was in California. Next thing you know he was showing off his concealed pistol to everybody.


22 posted on 07/22/2022 8:55:36 AM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: G Larry
"to be used after they try to take yours away."

Actually it should say "to be used WHEN they try to take yours away."

23 posted on 07/22/2022 9:07:32 AM PDT by jpp113
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To: seowulf
showing off his concealed pistol

Concealed? He seems to be unclear on the concept ...

24 posted on 07/22/2022 9:12:29 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: RandFan

Matt Gaetz was right on!


25 posted on 07/22/2022 9:14:20 AM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: jpp113
Do you really think anybody in those departments would go door to door to confiscate weapons?

1- They're cowards.

2-They're untrained and incapable of using the weapons effectively.

My original statement stands.

26 posted on 07/22/2022 9:43:24 AM PDT by G Larry (Anybody notice that Satan is hard at work?)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
About a decade ago people noticed a major uptick in the amount of ammo Fedgov was buying for their agencies. Even the ones who would not normally be armed.

Almost every Feral agency is armed to the teeth, with actual 'weapons of war'.

27 posted on 07/22/2022 9:53:38 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: blueunicorn6

A security guard at a Social Security Office doesn’t surprise me. People with mental disabilities apply for Social Security Disability and they can be difficult to deal with sometimes. Also, some people who are denied disability, mentally ill or not, can explode if things don’t go their way.


28 posted on 07/22/2022 9:53:39 AM PDT by Controlling Legal Authority (Author of “Are You Ready to Adopt?”)
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To: RandFan
Did you hear Swellhead's question?

If the Dep't of Ed doesn't need those weapons...why do you?

Insufferable!

29 posted on 07/22/2022 9:54:50 AM PDT by spankalib
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To: RandFan; All
Thank you for referencing that article RandFan. Please note that the following critique is directed at Mr. Massie and not at you.

With all due respect to Rep. Massie, he needs to go “upstream” of the unconstitutionally big federal government and point out that the states have never expressly constitutionally give the feds the specific powers to establish Departments of Education (ED) and Agriculture (USDA) imo.

More specifically regarding ED, both President Thomas Jefferson, in a State of the Union address, also Justice Joseph Story, had both indicated that the states would first need to appropriately amend the Constitution in order for Congress to have the specific power to dictate, regulate, tax and spend in the name of INTRAstate schooling — something that the states have never done!

Regarding USDA, Justice Joseph story later included agriculture near the top of his list of example government powers that are NOT included in Congress's Commerce Clause powers.

In fact, United States v. Butler was an agriculture-related case where state sovereignty-respecting justices seemingly reflected on Story's words when they emphasized the already reasonably clear meaning of 10A, appropriately deciding that case against FDR-era Congress imo.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. None to regulate agricultural production is given, and therefore legislation by Congress for that purpose is forbidden [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

Corrections, insights welcome.

Our next major step in stopping the unconstitutionally big federal government from oppressing the people under its boots...

Patriots are reminded that they must vote twice this election year. Your first vote is to primary career RINO incumbents. Your second vote is to replace outgoing Democrats and RINOs with Trump-endorsed patriot candidates.

Again, insights welcome.

30 posted on 07/22/2022 10:14:06 AM PDT by Amendment10 ( )
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To: Controlling Legal Authority

Putting government employees in bunkers with armed guards keeps them separate from we the people.

It makes them unaccountable to us.

It makes them our masters.


31 posted on 07/22/2022 10:25:47 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: David Chase

I worked a patrol beat in South-Central Los Angeles for 16 years.

I never needed an up-armored vehicle of any kind, (unless a Crown Vic counts) and we drove our patrol cars to wherever we needed to serve a warrant.

So, one might wonder just what the various Federal agencies think they need armor for.


32 posted on 07/22/2022 10:39:12 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Controlling Legal Authority
A security guard at a Social Security Office doesn't surprise me. People with mental disabilities apply for Social Security Disability and they can be difficult to deal with sometimes. Also, some people who are denied disability, mentally ill or not, can explode if things don't go their way.

Let me play madlibs with this for a moment.

A HEAVILY ARMED security guard at a Social Security Office PARK doesn't surprise me. People with mental disabilities apply for Social Security Disability COME TO THE PARK and they can be difficult to deal with sometimes. Also, some people who are denied disability, CHILDREN TO SNIFF, mentally ill or not, can explode if things don't go their way.

You see you are defending the low level bureaucrats having better security at taxpayer expense then small children who are in far more danger and far more helpless.

You may not think of what you are saying in that way but it is what you are saying.

Sorry but the over paid paper pushers in the SS can just suck it up and do their jobs without any extra special security.

They are not that special.

33 posted on 07/22/2022 10:40:42 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: absalom01

Yep. And y’all got the job done.

Nowadays they ride an extremely expensive armor vehicle and look cool and badass on the way to the scene.

Then, they have to get out of said vehicle. No more cool.

Taxpayers paying for a cool ride.


34 posted on 07/22/2022 1:11:50 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: absalom01
 
 
Last bona fide legit use of an armored vehicle outside of the military that comes to my mind was about 5 years ago. A pack of methians were running a large multi-county theft ring, the place they were nested up in had all kinds of cameras, gates, barriers and such, rather hardened position. Sent the armor crashing through all that at the main gate and deputies poured in behind it. Made an excellent distraction from the other deputies who were coming at them from two other directions.
 
 

35 posted on 07/22/2022 10:54:44 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Migraine

I will vote as long as I can, and I will resist, using any means available to me. As an example: I’ve heard from a dozen people I know that they’ve signed on to be poll watchers. That’s a dozen more than I ever heard speak of it before.

Maybe the keyboard tough guys here could prove how tough they are and sign up for poll watcher in Detroit, or Philadelphia.


36 posted on 07/23/2022 2:35:05 AM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: rxh4n1
Maybe the keyboard tough guys here could prove how tough they are and sign up for poll watcher in Detroit, or Philadelphia.

I would if I lived there. It would be stupid, though, for me to go there from AZ just to prove to a resident cynic that I'm more than keyboard tough.

37 posted on 07/23/2022 8:48:45 AM PDT by Migraine ( )
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