[Svartalfiar]

No more then your tax refund is welfare because the money was spent long ago.
Invalid argument.
Please try again.

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I really resent your comment that it is welfare. I maxed out FICA for many, many years.


Social Security does have several programs that are welfare. Disability, Survivors, excessive returns, are all moneys paid out that aren't in any way based on what you paid in.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

You are conflating Social Security with Social Security Insurance.

They are two different programs.

Sort of like Medicare (A program that you have to pay 3.9% of your total wages into for as long as you are working and then pay for additional insurance as they force you off your private insurance at 65) and Medicaid (a program that you need pay nothing into) are often deliberately conflated.