Thanks rdl6989.
You all did see that on the Lupercal I thrice presented him a kingly crown, Which he did thrice refuse. Was this ambition? Yet Brutus says he was ambitious, And, sure, he is an honorable man. [Shakespear, Julius Caesar, Act 3 Scene 2
Posted on 02/11/2022 10:15:44 AM PST by Scarlett156
Random coupling might backfire
Dumbass bullshit from the History Channel.
There was a feast day on the Church’s calendar of saints for St. Valentine, on Feb. 14. But the romantic St. Valentine’s Day was some time in June. Both were so minor that when a Victorian British author (I forget which one) found a story about couples getting married on St. Valentine’s Day, he mistook the June day (an obvious day to get married in England) for the one in February. So unless someone wants to tell me how a day in June was somehow related to Lupercalia, this is utter balls-to-the-wall steaming crap.
Feb. 15 happens to be my wife’s birthday. I had been wondering what to do for a special celebration.
“awash with animal sacrifice”
Oh the PETA “Supermarket culture” brainwashed terminology. We have had celebrations with animal sacrifice all along in ALL cultures. Each has it’s own name for these. We call them Barbecues...
Animal sacrifice, naked people with whips, random sex, public orgies - but enough about the Biden administration...
Sounds like a great opportunity 🤡
In fact, it usually does.
Got a chance to nail this down a bit more: Valentine’s Day had no association at all with Romance until Geoffrey Chaucer. Chaucer’s poem was written for the wedding of Richard II and Anne, which was on May 2. May 3 was the feast of St Valentine, Bishop of Genoa. Since Chaucer refers to lovebirds (literally, the birds) making such a racket, later authors confused him with referring to a feast of February 23, which because of confusion of calendars, was improperly “corrected” to the Feast of St. Valentine that was on Feb. 14.
So, the “history channel” is the ultimate source for all things pagan? And all those mentions of the holiday in books are - oh, who needs to read that?
Eid mubarak!
“Church Socials”, Birthdays, Superbowl, Fiestas, and many more names for gatherings committing animal sacrifice before there were supermarkets.
>> So, the “history channel” is the ultimate source for all things pagan? And all those mentions of the holiday in books are - oh, who needs to read that? <<
Ultimate source? No. History always loves interviewing authors of books for their stories about UFOs, Big Foot, “hidden gospels,” etc. That doesn’t mean they’re not complete and utter B.S.
As for Valentine’s Day being associated with Lupercalia, the idea started with Alban Butler (1756-1759), but no-one knows where he got his ideas about Lupercalia, which had absolutely nothing to do with drawing names from a jar to couple. In fact, on Lupercalia, if you saw a women, you were supposed to strip naked, grab a leather thong, and chase after her, beating her. So NOT romantic! Butler seems to have realized Valentine’s Day fell on roughly the same day as Lupercalia and made the rest up. Only, as explained, he was wrong about which Valentine’s Day fell in ancient days near Lupercalia.
But as History Channel typically does, it presents disproven evidence to make its case for belief in anything metaphysical BESIDES the Christian God, and never mentions the proof the evidence is false.
By the way, ICYWC, there’s also absolutely zero evidence that there was ever a goddess Eostre, that anyone in Great Britain worshipped her, that Eastermonad had anything to do with her; Bede simply hadn’t known that Christians had been on Great Britain centuries earlier, so presumed Eastermonad referred to a different Easter than the Christian one, which is named after facing East, which, being named after Eos, is where you get your tiniest connection to any pagan God. But that’s like saying going to Church on Saturday is like worshipping Saturn.
Speaking of Saturn, there’s also no connection with Saturnalia and Christmas. In fact, the ties to it and Christmas are based on confusing it with the Feast of Sol Invictus, which is a LOT more like Christmas. In fact, it was a pagan invention centuries after Christmas to imitate Christmas. It’s about as related to the origins of Christmas as the Constanza family holiday of Festivus.
Ok but do you understand that this stuff on the istory hannel was stuff I had already read about elsewhere? So I was just passing it on? Shall we argue tediously about Bullfinch’s Mythology next?
Thanks rdl6989.
You all did see that on the Lupercal I thrice presented him a kingly crown, Which he did thrice refuse. Was this ambition? Yet Brutus says he was ambitious, And, sure, he is an honorable man. [Shakespear, Julius Caesar, Act 3 Scene 2
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