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2021 FORMULA 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX - LIVE THREAD
12/10/2021 | chode

Posted on 12/10/2021 5:44:28 PM PST by Chode

Yas Marina Circuit

First Grand Prix

2009

Number of Laps

58

Circuit Length

5.281km

Race Distance

306.183 km

Lap Record

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: byebyehalfbreed; f1; f1worldchampionship; formulaone; grandprix; greatjobmax; takethatstan
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To: steve86

Wow- i think i paid about $300 or so when i bought it- can’t remember exactly, but it was pretty expensive i remember- $90 for a used one is a steal-


81 posted on 12/12/2021 9:14:06 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434

I meant 1030 there, sorry.


82 posted on 12/12/2021 9:19:15 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: thinkthenpost

[[ you would prefer that the rules are ignored or made up because a Brit sticks his nose in where it doesn’t belong]]

Again, Huh? What “rules are ignored” are you talking about?

“The stewards said that although that article may not have been “applied fully” as the safety car came in at the end of the same lap, “Article 48.13 overrides that and once the message ‘Safety Car in this lap’ has been displayed, it is mandatory to withdraw the safety car at the end of that lap.

“That notwithstanding, Mercedes’ request that the Stewards remediate the matter by amending the classification to reflect the positions at the end of the penultimate lap, this is a step that the Stewards believe is effectively shortening the race retrospectively, and hence not appropriate.””

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mercedes-protest-over-abu-dhabi-restart-not-upheld/6878818/?s=08

[[but if you want to cheat to see him lose]]

Again- huh? please explain how the Stewards and myself are ‘cheating so that lewis loses”?


83 posted on 12/12/2021 9:26:29 PM PST by Bob434
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To: steve86

Ah- But i think the 1050 has come down since i bought mine- To me it was worth the price- as i do a lot of video card intensive work like photoshop, and other digital painting software work- and gaming-


84 posted on 12/12/2021 9:29:09 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434

I see the GTX 1050 on Amazon for $310 and up — sometimes way up, depending on configuration. The thing I’ve noticed on some of the other models is they’ve started substituting GDDR4 for GDDR5 to keep the price down. Most but not all of the new GT 1030s are like that. People say there is a definite performance hit, as much as 50% for certain specific operations.


85 posted on 12/12/2021 9:45:07 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Bob434

you aren’t cheating, the FIA is they are making up the rules as they go. The way the rule is written if cars are going to unlap they all unlap and then on the next lap the safety car comes in. Perhaps for next year they can publish a chart which establishes the hierarchy of rules and which article supersedes or trumps another particularly when the stewards themselves caused the conflict. (No lapped traffic being waved through, then only five being allowed to pass and then calling in the safety car. The bottom line to me is if you can ignore or change .12 well why can’t you do the same for .13 or even better just do it the way you have all year.
I thought they messed up in Baku too and it should have ended under caution.

.12 doesn’t read this only applies when we feel like it. The reason many folks are angry is over 51 years of F1 or however long ago the rule was adopted and has been in force it has never been done like this.

I obviously did a poor job of delineating between the race and the social component of you anger, I apologize for that.

The progressives have been working on ending the republic un for more than 100 years, unfortunately the are dangerously close and even if our country we will be so debt ridden that we can’t fend off the any further challenges or crisis.

So, you aren’t cheating and to me the stewards just made it up which I call cheating.

Mr. Choate has repeatedly stated he wants to see them race for the win.
I have a different view, if the race is posted for 58 laps, then it should run for 58 laps and if the cleanup is not complete without complying with the established procedures and standards then it ends at lap 58 under the safety car.
Otherwise, you end up with such things as NASCAR and their Green White Checker which leads to a 205 lap race when it was posted for 200.

Again, my opinion worth what you paid. Thank you for the discourse and have a great night.


86 posted on 12/12/2021 11:18:23 PM PST by thinkthenpost
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To: thinkthenpost

sorry for the typos.


87 posted on 12/12/2021 11:29:13 PM PST by thinkthenpost
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To: thinkthenpost
So what do you have to say about the nonsensical Saudi GP last week then?
Where Max was repeatedly penalized (robbed of almost certain victory) after Hamilton had driven into the back of Max's car when Max slowed down to let Hamilton pass (as he'd been ordered to)?
88 posted on 12/13/2021 3:25:27 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

I thought it was a horrible race, basically a joke! I think worst F1 race I had ever watched, until this week.

I also think Max should have gone in a straight line until he was passed and not been tracking right to left.
Bottom line, don’t give them the chance!


89 posted on 12/13/2021 4:39:52 AM PST by thinkthenpost
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To: Chode
Max Japanese fans go nuts watching him overtake Hamilton and win the race.

https://youtu.be/AP5uvqOgv-o

90 posted on 12/13/2021 4:44:52 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
Same in India

https://youtu.be/6xhlFAdJ3dA

91 posted on 12/13/2021 4:49:42 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

LOL!!! i was literally on the edge of my seat riding with Max on my big screen and the main race feed on the other and when he passed him i was on my feet too...

gotta love F1-TV


92 posted on 12/13/2021 7:38:51 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: steve86

Yeah kts been Whi,e since 8 looked at cards, I woild have thought the 1050 would drop more, but maybe I paid $400 or more, I can’t recall now. A 50% hit is pretty significant, UT I was using a 9800 not too long ago and it played a lot of games ok, but some it woild just choke on. I think,the 1050 is a significant upgrade over that card, and woild thi k the 1030 shou,d be sig ificznt upgrade too to the 9800, Nd should handle al..the Sims pretty well. There are a few newer games that make most rigs choke, but I avoided those games anyways

I remember when games were only a few dozen megabytes lol, and thinking I woild never need over 250 mb hard drive- now I am running out of room on a 1 terabyte drive and I remember downloading games on 56k dialup and it would take hours and hours,praying that nothing g disrupted the phone connection. 😆. We’ve come a long way since those days


93 posted on 12/13/2021 8:11:43 AM PST by Bob434
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To: SmokingJoe

Lolthats pretty funny- the crowd went nuts too, was awesome to see. I was on edge of seat too. That late lunge was perfectly timed, and the crowd was on their feet watching g a superb drive. Max is quite a driver.


94 posted on 12/13/2021 8:19:00 AM PST by Bob434
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To: thinkthenpost

All I’m gonna say I. This regard is that the stewards have determined twice now, for 2 separate complaints filed by Mercedes the the stewards were correct In how they handled it, citing the following

“A document released by the FIA on Sunday night read: “Article 15.3 allows the Race Director to control the use of the safety car, which in our determination includes its deployment and withdrawal”

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-stewards-dismiss-mercedes-abu-dhabi-grand-prix-protests-as-team.Q8StGwXFdORYlI32Jggoz.html

They had discretion on The sc once the ‘sc in this .ap’ sign was posted to the drivers. There were 2 rules they used to determine that the call they made was the right one. They had the siscretion at that point to state whether the race would finish under caution or not, which was their right to do apparently. I thi k they have 72 hours ( mercedes) to lodge a last protest, and it might end up going to court of mediation (or arbitration?) But it’s unlikely to go that far. But we will see

One last point about Hamilton. Picking on him for being a wanker isn’t raging against him. What goes on here at fr is very very mild co pared to the actual raging vitriol on forums with no guidelines. Many folks here agree that yes, our nation has problems, serious ones concerning blm, but that doesn’t negate the fact that Hamilton and ilk I. The sports arenas are ruining sports that we lo e, a d folks have a eight to be upset about that. Bubba Wallace absolutely ruined Nascar. He and the ilk that support his whining blm drmands, have turned Nascar woke, and even gotten people suspended and removed I. One case from Nascar (one of the older drivers spoke his mind over the fact that Nascar has gone woke, and was removed if I recall right).

We see in Hamilton the same demanding blm attitude, and woke attitude that ruined Nascar, and we don’t want to see it happen to F-1 too. Right now F-1 hasn’t quite gone down the woke road Nascar has, but we see signs of it happening with Hamilton complanning about supposedly being so oppressed, znd it’s only a matter of time before F-1 caves to the pressure of the loud-mouthed “social justice” pushers, Nd that is upsetting to folks who are losing one sport after another due to woke crap and In our nation, to the disrespectful attitudes of privileged athletes that hate our country.

We don’t hate Hamilton because he is a wanker- many breat sports heros are less than personable people, a d we don’t hate them for it either. What I personally object to with gi though is his support for a racist violent domestic terrorist group, znd for the fact that xupport for that group has led to the destruction. Of Nascar and is leading towards the same with F-1 if they go as woke as Nascar did.

I turned to F-1 for several reasons, but Mai ly because of how Nascar has crapped all over their fans with all of nascar’s asinine wokeness. I didn’t want to support a league that LIED to us to protect a liar who hoaxes us In The name of blm, and because I don’t want to,see officials in Nascar kneeling when our anthem is sung.

I loved Nascar, and hated it when they went woke. I a,a, turned to them because football, basketball, etc, did the same crap. Ru8ning other sports that I used to love- I turned to F-1 and other sports like moto gp because it was a refuge from the asinine wokeness that is tearing our nation apart, znd because I don’t want to support leagues that do that while crapping all over their loyal fans, Only to find the same wokeess In hamilton.

So yes, I do not like hamilton -not because he is a jerk, but because of what people like him have done to ruin sports that i loved. I make no apologies for it., and will continue to pick on him if he continues down the woke road, and especially if I see it running F-1 like it did Nascar. F-1 is one of the last places a person can go now to get pure sports that isn’t fouled with wokeness, but it appears that it could rashly head In That direction. I pray it doesn’t, UT we will see.


95 posted on 12/13/2021 8:57:03 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434

Yeah, I could have continued with my old GT 730 and still enjoyed the older simulators (25 - 30 FPS). So the GT 1030 at 3X as fast will undoubtedly be playable.

I am ignoring MS Flight Simulator 2020 as the usable minimum hardware specs are far beyond mine. I believe that the minimum graphics capability is spec’d at GTX 770 but people say that is nowhere near the real usable minimum. So I’m ignoring it for now and a few folks say they see no reason to change anyway. Then there is the open source Flightgear which has been continually updated since 1996 (last update in July). I have installed it but not used it and people say it is very good now. I think I read it downloads scenery on the fly like FS2020. And Aerofly which I got just for the R-22 and really runs fine on the old GT 730.


96 posted on 12/13/2021 12:31:07 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

[[I am ignoring MS Flight Simulator 2020 as the usable minimum hardware specs are far beyond mine]]

A shoot- I was thinking about looking into that- i wonder if they have a Demo? Would like to try it and see if it’s playable- but probably not- my computer is older- not real powerful-


97 posted on 12/13/2021 1:08:34 PM PST by Bob434
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To: Chode

B.L.M = BEATEN LAST MINUTE


98 posted on 12/13/2021 1:17:47 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Bob434

Christmas came a little early. My new Core I3 upgrade / downgrade arrived today. The reason I say downgrade lol is because my old processor is an I5 (2nd generation), but the new tenth generation I3 is the same number of cores (4) and way faster clock speed. So a new I3 is better than an old I5, IOW. Plus the older sims, at least, don’t use more than 4 cores and don’t do hyper threading anyway. So I’m looking forward to that.


99 posted on 12/13/2021 3:56:25 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

its amazing that a ‘downgrade’ can be faster than the old higher cpu’s lol- amazing what tech goes into these ever improving computers- and the prices- we paid over $3000 for our first computer and by today’s standards it was a real dog- today i can pick up a computer that is many times faster, larger HD, faster ram, etc etc- for way way less money- Tech-wise, it’s a good time now to be alive lol- i just wish we had waited a few years before jumping into computers- coulda saved a ton of money- and had far better machines-


100 posted on 12/13/2021 9:05:00 PM PST by Bob434
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