Blue Origin END GAME!! Top GENIUS Engineers Escape Jeff Bezos to Join up SpaceX & Elon Musk

YouTube ^ | August 24, 2021 | Great SpaceX

[SunkenCiv]

I like the heat, but I'm weird that way. OTOH, just doing work on a project that will never be done, and will eventually have its plug pulled on a timetable that is opaque doesn't sound like a good place to go.

[Rockingham]

Most entrepreneurs and inventors are jerks and oddballs. You want nice manners and sharp fashion sense, look to the world of inherited wealth and private education.

[Fresh Wind]

No problem. Bezos can just hire a bunch of Afghan refugees.

[Fractal Trader]

Nobody can say for sure, but there have been observations that the whole stunt could have been a CGI animation. The test took place in a very remote location where there were few, if any outside cameras. The original #1 passenger wes not included -- did he not buy into the stunt? There are clear video glitches which could be from GGI

Here's an article supporting this conispiracy. Of course, it is not from a MSM website, but....

Blue Origin launch faked using CGI proof

[SunkenCiv]

Correct. Plus, the definition of the Karman line is a bit nebulous. And Gagarin didn’t actually complete on orbit, landing west of where he took off going east.

Can Bezos and Branson Be Called Astronauts? It Depends Who You Ask.
July 27, 2021
Scott Manley
As you might imaging, there are lots of random people with strong opinions on what you have to do to deserve ‘Astronaut’ status, and it turns out that depending who you ask the qualifications are different. The FAA has rules for commercial astronauts which sets altitudes and participation requirements, meanwhile NASA seems to call anyone who’s completed the training an Astronaut, even if they’ve never flown to space.
There’s a long history of ‘Astronaut Wings’ and other awards for those who participate in spaceflight, and I felt it’s worth talking about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKx-QD5w9Ew
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Vostok_1_orbit_english.png

Should Outer Space Begin at 80km?
August 4, 2018
Scott Manley
Approaching the question of proximity to space in both directions - hiking up to the highest point I could find (http://www.norcalhiker.com/sierra-but...) then discussing Jonathan McDowell’s paper on why the edge of space might be better set at 80km rather than the current 100km.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9bwTFGbDa0
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094576518308221?via%3Dihub

[hoagy62]

I looked at the “proof”.

The reason the camera was moving was that it was from a drone, not a tower. I saw NO supposed ‘glitch’.

I’m as much a conspiracy theorist as anyone, but that was NOT faked.

As for the original passenger #1, I’ll bet it was from him getting cold feet= “Yeah, I paid $28M to do this, but this is crazy!” Also, the young man from the Netherlands who went up? His dad is going to be on (I think) the next flight. I don’t think he’d have paid for two flights when all he was getting were faked-CGI flights.

[SunkenCiv]

Spacecraft orbiting the Earth have remained in space since the 1950's and may last for centuries more, but spacecraft orbiting close to the moon can crash within weeks. The reason for this is the lunar gravity field is lumpy, with geological features making the smooth orbits of space probes distort until they hit the surface.

Why Do Lunar Satellites Eventually Crash Into The Moon? | May 22, 2019 | Scott Manley

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The lunar module flown on Apollo 10 is the only flown lunar module which didn't end up crashing into the moon, or burning up in the Earth's atmosphere. After the testing in lunar orbit the ascent engine performed a burn to depletion which meant it escaped into interplanetary space.

At this moment the location is unknown, but people are looking for it, however it could take decades to be sure since it only comes into the vicinity of the Earth every 15 years or so.

If it were found however, would it be possible to bring it back to earth for inspection by historians and space archaeologists - time to fire up Kerbal Space Program with realism overhaul to try flying this mission.

Mike Loucks' did the math to figure out the possible orbits...

Apollo 10's Lunar Module Snoopy Is Lost In Space - Could We Bring it Home? | May 20, 2019 | Scott Manley

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In 1969 Neil Armstrong announced a safe touchdown on the moon with the words 'The Eagle has Landed'. "Eagle" was the name of the Lunar Module, the spacecraft which carried Neil and Buzz to the surface of the moon. After they walked on the surface of the moon they flew the Eagle back into orbit, docked with the Columbia command module and undocked the Eagle, leaving it in orbit while Columbia returned to Earth.

Most spacecraft in lunar orbit suffer from instability in their orbits due to the 'lumpy' nature of the lunar gravity which tends to cause the orbits to eventually get so elliptical that they hit the moon.

However, an amateur space fan wanted to narrow down the possible impact location and used orbit modelling software to propagate the orbit forwards in time until it hit the moon. He was surprised to find that it didn't hit the moon, and remained in a stable orbit for decades, this suggests that the Eagle may still be orbiting the moon over 5 decades after being left there.

Is Apollo 11's Lunar Module Still In Orbit Around The Moon 52 Years Later? | July 17, 2021 | Scott Manley

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• Related: Potsdam Gravity Potato keyword

[SunkenCiv]

I agree, from the standpoint of running an aerospace company, he’s in over his head; he’s probably a good boss at Amazon.

[GOPJ]

One employee said “I really was happy to work here but I'm totally disappointed in the culture, horrible management and lack of direction. So many people are leaving. I understand why.”

Stupid office bureaucrats pushing around talented engineers... never works.

[SunkenCiv]

[snip] Blue Origin made the announcement early this morning, with the release of a highly stylized video showing the rocket’s test flight. The video comes off like an intense Hollywood action film, incorporating actual footage and CGI to depict the vehicle in space. It shows New Shepard as it climbs to an altitude of 329,839 feet — or sub-orbital space — which is where the vehicle’s crew capsule detaches. [/snip]

https://www.theverge.com/2015/11/24/9790510/blue-origin-reusable-rockets-vertical-landing-spacex

[SunkenCiv]

Sure, but how many simultaneous suicide bombers going off would it take to blast a payload into orbit? ;^)

[SunkenCiv]

It worked in the Manhattan Project. :^)

I got a bit of a verbal check in a FB group, by an engineer who worked at BO (amusing initials, so I had to set it up), and I suspect they’ve got excellent talent there, and probably have the drive to excel one often sees in new hires, particularly among engineers. But when the company appears to be doing nothing with the results, it is bound to lead to a lot of egress.

By contrast, and as noted in one of those vids posted above, Musk is more demanding, and plenty of engineers (etcetera) who are not quite into it as much as the boss is, have left both Tesla and SpaceX for a less demanding workplace.

[minnesota_bound]

FTA: I’m totally disappointed in the culture, horrible management and lack of direction. So many people are leaving. I understand why.”

Meanwhile Musk is launching one rocket after another.
Bezos is running his rocket company like he does the amazon warehouses. Treating people like dirt I suspect.

[SunkenCiv]

First images of Blue Origin’s “Project Jarvis” test tank
"The reason I like vertical landing is because it scales so well."
ERIC BERGER - 8/24/2021, 1:44 PM

[SunkenCiv]

The beef between SpaceX and Blue Origin explained.

Elon Musk vs. Jeff Bezos: It's Getting Ugly | September 9, 2021 | Newsthink

[SunkenCiv]

I'd be surprised if SpaceX is NOT working on a lunar surface habitat to land on the Moon without being asked.

The floating space colonies wanted by Bezos come right from the late Gerard K. O'Neill, who died, hmm, early 80s? Making them look like existing Earth cities would A) be condemned by the woke stooges as being white supremacist, and B) wind up a lot like Dubai or Eurodisney, but a police state.

[SunkenCiv]

O'Neill (1927-1992) advocated large photovoltaic arrays in Earth orbit, which would shoot energy down to the Earth's surface using microwaves. That was just nuts.

A special video for the Space Studies Institute membership, this is the complete and uncut version of "The Vision" from Gerard K. O'Neill. Produced by SSI Senior Associates Rick Tumlinson, Morris Hornik and Andrew Lindberg, this is a direct copy from the O'Neill family's original. Lower quality segments that we allow others to post on YouTube came from the cd accompanying the 3rd edition of The High Frontier book.

Segments and start times: Survival 00:00, Hopeful Future 02:50, Relief for the Earth 06:00, An Obvious Idea 08:30, 1969-1979 09:50, Founding of SSI 11:55, Who is SSI 13:45, The Space Program 14:55, National Commission on Space 19:46, Scientists and Citizens 25:25, The Moon 27:40, Space Colonies 33:35, To the Stars 40:51, Pioneers 43:35

Gerard K. O'Neill: The Vision Uncut | May 18, 2016 | SSI: Space Studies Institute