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Texas Gov. Abbott has tested positive for COVID-19
Insider Paper ^ | 08/17/21 | Brendan Taylor

Posted on 08/17/2021 3:15:50 PM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: frogjerk

You can support the vaccination effort and not support Fauci. Fauci HAS likely lied to save face in light of the possibility that COVID was leaked from a lab that he was, in part, anyway responsible for. I don’t believe Fauci had anything to do with releasing the virus, as some have claimed. And his trying to cover his tracks, if he is, should have nothing to do with trying to prevent COVID. And, no, you can still catch AND spread COVID after being vaccinated. Possibly you could spread it worse, because you may become in contact with people and not even know you have COVID, where a person sick with COVID will quarantine.


61 posted on 08/17/2021 4:25:09 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: frogjerk

He certainly never read the part about the vaccine not preventing infection, or I’d be accusing him of incomprehension, or worse, obfuscation. I’ve seen him more than once implying that effective vaccines prevent infection.. period... that is all I was referencing. I actually like the guy.


62 posted on 08/17/2021 4:28:33 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 ('filling her cup...)
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To: frogjerk

If that is what you believe, then so it is. But you should put some more research into it. As I said, I don’t expect many more people will get vaccinated, because of the internet garbage that is out there.


63 posted on 08/17/2021 4:32:19 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: shadowlands1960

We will indeed, maybe sooner. The f-ing treatments better work or everyone I know (friends and family) are in trouble. It’s still hard to believe this is an issue for a bug that has such an incredibly high survival rate (especially for those in good health under 50) Fear is a B&%ch.


64 posted on 08/17/2021 4:33:05 PM PDT by week 71
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To: Enlightened1

Has anyone NOT seen this yet?

Copied from a Guy On The Interwebs

ABBOTT AND COSTELLO’S ‘WHO’S ON FIRST’ ……updated version.
Bud: ‘You can’t come in here!’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Well because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick.’
Bud: ‘It doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘Well, why does that guy get to go in?’
Bud: ‘Because he’s vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But he’s sick!’
Bud: ‘It’s alright. Everyone in here is vaccinated.’
Lou: ‘Wait a minute. Are you saying everyone in there is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Yes.’
Lou: ‘So then why can’t I go in there if everyone is vaccinated?’
Bud: ‘Because you’ll make them sick.’
Lou: ‘How will I make them sick if I’m NOT sick and they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘But they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘So what the heck does the vaccine do?’
Bud: ‘It vaccinates.’
Lou: ‘So vaccinated people can’t spread covid?’
Bud: ‘Oh no. They can spread covid just as easily as an unvaccinated person.’
Lou: ‘I don’t even know what I’m saying anymore. Look. I’m not sick.
Bud: ‘Ok.’
Lou: ‘And the guy you let in IS sick.’
Bud: ‘That’s right.’
Lou: ‘And everybody in there can still get sick even though they’re vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Certainly.’
Lou: ‘So why can’t I go in again?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘I’m not asking who’s vaccinated or not!’
Bud: ‘I’m just telling you how it is.’
Lou: ‘Nevermind. I’ll just put on my mask.’
Bud: ‘That’s fine.’
Lou: ‘Now I can go in?’
Bud: ‘Absolutely not?’
Lou: ‘But I have a mask!’
Bud: ‘Doesn’t matter.’
Lou: ‘I was able to come in here yesterday with a mask.’
Bud: ‘I know.’
Lou: So why can’t I come in here today with a mask? ….If you say ‘because I’m unvaccinated’ again, I’ll break your arm.’
Bud: ‘Take it easy buddy.’
Lou: ‘So the mask is no good anymore.’
Bud: ‘No, it’s still good.’
Lou: ‘But I can’t come in?’
Bud: ‘Correct.’
Lou: ‘Why not?’
Bud: ‘Because you’re unvaccinated.’
Lou: ‘But the mask prevents the germs from getting out.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but people can still catch your germs.’
Lou: ‘But they’re all vaccinated.’
Bud: ‘Yes, but they can still get sick.’
Lou: ‘But I’m not sick!!’
Bud: ‘You can still get them sick.’
Lou: ‘So then masks don’t work!’
Bud: ‘Masks work quite well.’
Lou: ‘So how in the heck can I get vaccinated people sick if I’m not sick and masks work?’
Bud: ‘Third base.’


65 posted on 08/17/2021 4:42:34 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( )
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To: shadowlands1960
When I got the vaccine I knew it was only to prevent the symptoms from getting out of control if I did catch the virus.. the cytokine storm..

You may have understood as much but I am willing to lay money 99% of the population believed it was to prevent COVID. Why, because in the normal world before the vaccine issue was super politicized everyone got a vaccine for its primary purpose, to prevent the disease. You got or allowed your child to get vaccinated against small pox, chicken pox, rubella, HPV, diphtheria, whooping cough, meningitis, etc .. for the purpose of preventing the disease, not to lessen the symptoms.

If you don't like the COVID vaccines being lumped in with these other vaccines whose number one purpose is to prevent contracting the disease then don't call the COVID shots vaccines because they aren't by the definition and behavior we expect from something that is called a vaccine.

66 posted on 08/17/2021 4:43:09 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: frogjerk

“You may have understood as much but I am willing to lay money 99% of the population believed it was to prevent COVID.”

There was the article today about several (7?) people at one hospital that recently died of Covid that were vaccinated. The medical folks didn’t even test (or treat) for Covid as they figured it couldn’t be Covid because the patients had been vaxxed!


67 posted on 08/17/2021 4:48:50 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful!)
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To: 21twelve

What did they treat them for if they didn’t know or assumed they did not have COVID?


68 posted on 08/17/2021 4:51:27 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

Excellent


69 posted on 08/17/2021 4:51:43 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: frogjerk

Feel free to steal it, I did :D
If I knew who the author is I would give credit.


70 posted on 08/17/2021 4:57:06 PM PDT by CaptainPhilFan ( )
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To: frogjerk

Whether people are aware of it or not, being vaccinated is a sort of infection.... you don’t become ill because the virus has been attenuated. Your point is taken, this is a new technology and we are involved in a massive experiment.. I never said that people aren’t right to be skeptical... the public education efforts on these vaccines have been atrociously mishandled..


71 posted on 08/17/2021 5:00:12 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: shadowlands1960
the public education efforts on these vaccines have been atrociously mishandled.

I agree but maybe not in the same manner. Case in point...When dissent or questions are quashed or not allowed because of censorship the science becomes propaganda which any truth seeking individual despises.

Open and honest debates create solutions. Closed debate causes distrust.

The censors only have themselves to blame for the large vaccine hesitancy population. They created the distrust.

72 posted on 08/17/2021 5:09:27 PM PDT by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
The vaccinated barely notice COVID-19

Um, most people, vaccinated or otherwise, barely notice COVID-19. That’s why they made such a stink about “asymptomatic carriers” long before they had any “vaccines”.

Try to think, at least once in a while. You have been lied to, about everything to do with “COVID”, from the start. It’s the flu.

73 posted on 08/17/2021 5:12:17 PM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest; Jane Long; ransomnote; Red Badger; SeekAndFind; xzins
Probably because he comes into close contact with thousands of people a day and doesn’t want to become the next Typhoid Mary.

So what you are saying is that an asymptomatc vaccinated person can become infected with the disease, show no symptoms, but infect everyone around him with the disease, both vaccinated and unvaccinated?

You just made the argument that NOBODY should take the jab. We are creating an army of Covid Marys.

74 posted on 08/17/2021 5:14:08 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (I identify as fully vaccinated. )
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To: Texas Eagle
We are being played.

The unvacinated play themselves.

75 posted on 08/17/2021 5:18:06 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian

Yeah... he should get 7 tests in a row to see if he really is positive... sorta like Elon Musk


76 posted on 08/17/2021 5:18:14 PM PDT by RebelTXRose (Our Lady of Fatima, Pray for us! PRAY THE ROSARY!)
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To: frogjerk

No, we agree ‘in the same manner.’ The push for conformity of opinion is what is behind the confusion. The public health establishment has probably purposely obfuscated the nature of these vaccines fearing that people wouldn’t take it if it didn’t guarantee prevention from infection... especially given the experimental nature of these agents... how many would refuse to take the risk?

There is also an obvious profit motive... why else would they be recommending people with natural immunity get vaccinated.. even in the face of studies showing that natural immunity is more efficacious than these vaccines at preventing serious illness?


77 posted on 08/17/2021 5:24:59 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 ("...some day you will be old enough to start reading fairy tales again... " CSL)
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To: Enlightened1

How sick is he? Does he even have symptoms?


78 posted on 08/17/2021 5:29:45 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Enlightened1

He needs more verification than from a defective test.


79 posted on 08/17/2021 5:37:14 PM PDT by Revel
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To: Enlightened1

Best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery to Gov. Abbott. For all of the criticism here, he has fought the mandatory mask and vaccine BS from the Left for quite a while. He may not be DeSantis, but he’s damned close in many regards.


80 posted on 08/17/2021 5:37:57 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, “The Weapon Shops of Isher”)
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