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Pirate Skeletons From 1717 Shipwreck Discovered Off Cape Cod
New York Post ^

Posted on 02/12/2021 2:39:52 AM PST by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway; SunkenCiv

PinGGG!.................


21 posted on 03/29/2021 5:35:13 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: nickcarraway

Hoist the black flag!!!


22 posted on 03/29/2021 5:37:13 AM PDT by VastRWCon (Fake News")
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To: nickcarraway

So do Boston pirates stand around saying “aahhhh”.


23 posted on 03/29/2021 5:39:16 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: nickcarraway

Interesting.
From another source: “Bellamy’s crew was made up of enslaved Africans, Native Americans, and sailors from across Europe and North America. Originally a British slave ship, the vessel was captured by Bellamy in early 1717.”

Most Americans are aware the Brits engaged in the African slave trade but are unaware that they rounded up Native Americans for the slave trade.


24 posted on 03/29/2021 5:58:35 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Red Badger; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Avast ye swabs.

25 posted on 03/29/2021 6:00:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ARRRRGH!..........................


26 posted on 03/29/2021 6:04:00 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: Varda

So did the Spanish, which gave us Squanto...............


27 posted on 03/29/2021 6:04:45 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: Red Badger

Squanto was captured by the Brits, taken to Spain and bought by a religious order. At the time, any Indian who was a Christian could not be enslaved by Spanish law. After his conversion, Squanto was freed and went to England and secured passage back to New England. Apparently he couldn’t find his tribe (it’s unknown why) and so joined up with another Christian group (the Pilgrims).


28 posted on 03/29/2021 6:12:18 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda

According to the movie about Squanto, they theorized that the tribe was wiped out by disease, likely Infulenza..............


29 posted on 03/29/2021 6:14:41 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah that’s a popular speculation. It’s possible but there are other explanations. Warfare was common among the tribes and when a tribe lost they moved to other areas sometimes pretty far away.


30 posted on 03/29/2021 6:19:10 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda

But there is usually a tribe that moves into the conquered area and would tell what happened........


31 posted on 03/29/2021 6:24:56 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: Varda

My understanding is the Indians that lived in what is now Plymouth, which they called Patuxet (http://www.tolatsga.org/wampa.html), were relatives of the Wampanoag Indians. Even Massasoit, chief of the Wampanoags, acknowledged Patuxet was wiped out by sickness.

Squanto, or Tisquantum (his actual name) was a member of the Patuxet tribe who had lived there, according to Captain John Smith, of the Jamestown Colony fame, in his book:

The generall historie of Virginia, New England & the Summer Isles: together with The true travels, adventures and observations, and A sea grammar

found here: https://archive.org/details/generallhistori00smitgoog


32 posted on 03/29/2021 6:52:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! ("You, the American people, are my only special interest." --President Donald J. Trump)
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To: Red Badger
The ship sank because it rammed into a rock. Egyptian pilot.

33 posted on 03/29/2021 7:02:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I thought it sank because it had too much booty!.................


34 posted on 03/29/2021 7:03:56 AM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: Alas Babylon!

That’s very possible but another narrative I’ve seen says that Squanto was a captive not a member of the Wampanoags. It does make me question the “plague” or sickness narrative but you’re right most sources say sickness killed his tribe.


35 posted on 03/29/2021 7:27:50 AM PDT by Varda
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To: Jewbacca

None of them knew the combination to Davy Jones’ locker


36 posted on 03/29/2021 7:35:34 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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To: Red Badger

Walk the plank!


37 posted on 03/29/2021 7:36:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Hessian

Only Sinbad knows for certain


38 posted on 03/29/2021 7:36:56 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity. )
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To: Varda

I think there’s no doubt about the Indians of the Americas being almost wiped out by Old World diseases.

It wasn’t done on purpose, of course, as 16th Century Westerners had no idea how germs and viruses act—or even knew they existed.

But thousands of years of East/West traffic from the Far East to Europe and mankind there living cheek and jowl with poultry, swine and cattle meant many, many bacteria and viruses jumped species barriers and wiped out plenty of people in waves of plague. The Old World humans earned their immunity the hard way. The descendants of plague victims’ micros versus the peoples of hardly any disease clashed.

Bad news for Indians. Most of them died from diseases from people they never even saw.


39 posted on 03/29/2021 7:43:02 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! ("You, the American people, are my only special interest." --President Donald J. Trump)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I think the number killed by Old World diseases is overstated. Case in point, what was widely thought mostly Old World diseases turned out to be indigenous hemorrhagic fevers that killed large swaths of Meso-America in the 16th century.


40 posted on 03/29/2021 7:58:03 AM PDT by Varda
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