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To: SecAmndmt

I don’t think you know what medical malpractice means and I don’t think you understand how vitamin work. And when push comes to shove we use real medications not over the counter stuff

It seems if someone died due to vitamin deficiency that would be on them. But isomer seriously think it is the cause. If it were we would be curing with vitamins.

And before you haul off and say much else you are practicing medicine without a license. At least tell those you are advising you have no training and no license to practice.

I note you never answered mom MD question about IV fluid , oxygen delivery modes, anticoagulation and numerous other therapies. Seems to me she is meeting the standard of care. You don’t even know what the standard of care is.

Carry on. Just made inform people you have no training no license and only an opinion.

Pleasant evening to you good doctor.


107 posted on 12/21/2020 10:29:32 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr

“And before you haul off and say much else you are practicing medicine without a license. At least tell those you are advising you have no training and no license to practice.”

This final statement really summarizes the buffoonery of our FR Cv19 MD contingent.

Advocating in general in favor of supplements and nutrition is not medical practice. It is not even diatetics. Supplements are regulated as food, and are the free choice of the individual (see DSHEA law of 1994?).

Show me where I have prescribed anything to anyone. I haven’t. I have simply shared basic and general public space information on boosting of immunity, and questioned why it is that a lay person like myself should be the one to encourage others to take control of their own health. People who have an interest can and should look it up for themselves.

Funny that wellness professionals encourage others to do exactly what I advocate: for everyone to take responsibility for their own health.

There is an element of threat to your post as well, suggesting that those of us who speak out are breaking the law. That too is perfectly in keeping with a profession which is protective of its power of life and death over others. You’d prefer a patient died, rather than the patient taking simple steps to help his or herself.

We do not live in a technocracy. Perhaps some will find out hard, that that is not about to change.

The bad medical advice of conventional MDs is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands every year even without cv19.


109 posted on 12/21/2020 11:51:03 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: gas_dr

“I note you never answered mom MD question about IV fluid , oxygen delivery modes, anticoagulation and numerous other therapies. Seems to me she is meeting the standard of care. You don’t even know what the standard of care is.”

325,000 dead and counting. Thank God the standard of care was met! At least the health insurance of the deceased will pay, huh?

Proverbs 26:11


110 posted on 12/21/2020 11:56:05 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: gas_dr

Anyone reading can note that in the story below: on Day 7, it was the family that insisted on IV-C for treatment of infection. Presumably, none of the family members was a licensed MD. Without the intervention of these lay people, the patient was looking at a more negative outcome, or even death.

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https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/08/28/iv-vitamin-c-coronavirus.aspx

STORY AT-A-GLANCE-
Vitamin C is an essential component of immune cell function, it has potent anti-inflammatory effects and at high doses even works as an antiviral
Vitamin C is a foundational component of two distinct and highly effective treatment protocols developed by Dr. Paul Marik — one for sepsis and another, called MATH+, specifically for COVID-19
According to a recent case history, high-dose IV vitamin C was successfully used to save the life of an elderly patient with critical COVID-19 infection, sepsis and acute respiratory distress syndrome
According to the doctors who reported the case, she was the first patient to successfully discontinue mechanical ventilation early at that hospital. The median duration of mechanical ventilation for COVID-19 patients is 10 days, whereas this patient was able to get off it in five
Previous research found IV vitamin C at a dose of 50 mg per kilo every six hours for 96 hours significantly reduced mortality and shortened ICU stays among patients with sepsis and ARDS
While U.S. media and self-appointed “fact checkers” claim the use of vitamin C against COVID-19 is nothing but fake news and dangerous nonsense, the Chinese have been hard at work looking at vitamin C against this pandemic illness.

One source where you can find pertinent research material is the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service website,1 which has published more than a dozen reports on this topic.

Earlier this year I interviewed Dr. Andrew Saul, editor-in-chief of the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, about vitamin C against viral illnesses such as COVID-19, in which he reviewed some of its established benefits. Importantly, vitamin C is an essential component of immune cell function, it has potent anti-inflammatory effects and at high doses even works as an antiviral.

Vitamin C is a foundational component of two distinct and highly effective treatment protocols developed by Dr. Paul Marik — one for sepsis and another, called MATH+, specifically for COVID-19. I’ve reviewed both protocols in previous articles.

COVID-19 Patient Brought From Brink of Death by Vitamin C
An August 10, 2020, MedPage Today article2 highlights a recent case3 history in which high-dose IV vitamin C was successfully used to save the life of an elderly patient.

A 74-year-old woman was admitted to a Flint, Michigan, hospital after suffering with low-grade fever, dry cough and shortness of breath for two days. She’d recently undergone a knee replacement procedure, and her knee is now red, swollen and painful, suggesting infection has set in.

Over the next 24 hours, her condition continued to worsen, despite treatment with oxygen, antibiotics and other drugs. Her RT-PCR test also came back positive for SARS-CoV-2 infection. As reported by MedPage Today:4

“Clinicians start treatment with oral hydroxychloroquine 400 mg once and then 200 mg twice a day, along with intravenous azithromycin 500 mg once a day, zinc sulfate 220 mg three times a day, and oral vitamin C 1 g twice a day.

When blood and sputum cultures are negative for any organisms, broad-spectrum antibiotics are discontinued. The patient’s dyspnea rapidly worsens, and oxygen requirements increase to 15 liters. She is drowsy, in moderate distress, and her airways remain unprotected …

By day 6 … Bilateral alveolar infiltrates are evident on chest x-ray, due to pneumonia and interstitial edema, consistent with acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS). Given her rapid deterioration, the patient is intubated on an emergent basis and started on pressure-regulated volume-controlled mechanical ventilation.”

By day 7, the woman’s family requested she be placed on high-dose IV vitamin C, and over the next 24 hours, she received 11 grams total. Two days later, her condition began to gradually improve, and on day 10, a second chest x-ray revealed considerable improvement of both the pneumonia and interstitial edema, at which point she was extubated. The patient’s breathing continued improving over the following five days.

“On day 16, she shows significant recovery, with oxygen saturation of 92% while breathing ambient air, and chest radiography reveals almost complete resolution of the infiltrates,” MedPage Today reports.5

“During her hospitalization, the patient received a total of 5 days of treatment with hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin along with 4 days of colchicine. Treatment with high-dose vitamin C infusion and oral zinc sulfate were continued for a total of 10 days.”

Take-Home Message: Fight for the Treatment You Want
Remarkably, while suffering from severe COVID-19 infection, septic shock and ARDS — and being on mechanical ventilation — this elderly woman made a full recovery.

According to the doctors who reported the case, she was the first patient to successfully discontinue mechanical ventilation early at that hospital. The median duration of mechanical ventilation for COVID-19 patients is 10 days, whereas this patient was able to get off it in five.

Vitamin C has been recognized as an essential component of immune cell function with a critical role in numerous immune system mechanisms. Severe vitamin C deficiency is also known to increase the risk for … pneumonia and other infections.
A key take-home message from this story is that the IV infusion of vitamin C was done at the insistence of her family. It’s an excellent example demonstrating that when things are going sideways, you need to step in and push for the care you want. You have that right.

It’s also an example of why it’s so important to have an advocate to speak up for you when you’re admitted to the hospital. This woman was placed on mechanical ventilation, which means she was sedated and was in no position to make any of her own decisions. Fortunately, her family knew about the potential benefits of vitamin C and insisted it be tried. In doing so, they saved her life. As noted by MedPage Today:6

“Vitamin C in­fusion is not approved as a standard treatment for SARS-CoV-2 and thus was not part of the hospital’s COVID-19 treatment regimen.

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111 posted on 12/22/2020 12:39:34 AM PST by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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