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Beethoven Has a First Name (It’s time to “fullname” all composers in classical music.)
Slate ^ | 10/24/2020 | CHRIS WHITE

Posted on 10/25/2020 1:08:55 PM PDT by Borges

There will be a time when we’ll go to concerts again. We will buy our tickets, shuffle shoulder to shoulder down the aisle, and find our seats. The lights will dim, and the conductor will walk onto the stage to introduce the program. They might talk about Beethoven, Schumann, and Bartók. And they might talk about Alma Mahler, Florence Price, Henry Burleigh, and Caroline Shaw. Many of us, used to the conventions of classical performance, will hardly notice the difference: “traditional” white male composers being introduced with only surnames, full names for everyone else, especially women and composers of color.

The habitual, two-tiered way we talk about classical composers is ubiquitous. For instance, coverage of an early October livestream by the Louisville Orchestra praised the ensemble’s performance of a “Beethoven” symphony, and the debut of a composition memorializing Breonna Taylor by “Davóne Tines” and “Igee Dieudonné.” But ubiquity doesn’t make something right. It’s time we paid attention to the inequity inherent in how we talk about composers, and it’s time for the divided naming convention to change.

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1 posted on 10/25/2020 1:08:55 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

Looodveeg Von

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2 posted on 10/25/2020 1:10:59 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Borges
Rollover?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz5jXwOXgKQ

3 posted on 10/25/2020 1:11:07 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Rome wasn't built in a day. All Hail the night shift!)
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To: Borges

I don’t know that I agree. Is not Beethoven equal to Sting or Prince? Single name fame is a good thing to me!


4 posted on 10/25/2020 1:14:23 PM PDT by SES1066 (2020, VOTE your principles, VOTE your history, VOTE FOR ALL AMERICANS, VOTE colorblind!)
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To: Borges

Anyone with a distinctive name who achieves a certain level can have this happen.

Today, it is Bono, Aretha and Elvis. Elvis Costello is stuck with using his full name.

If there are offspring or brothers, the name is employed to avoid confusion. George and Ira Gershwin, Johann Sebastian Bach, and all those other Bachs.

Ludwig Von Beethoven is a mouthful. THAT’S why we just say Beethoven. It is also why we say Lenin and Stalin, and often call Franklin Delano Roosevelt FDR (Theodore keeps us from using the last name).


5 posted on 10/25/2020 1:15:20 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Borges

Because “Beethoven” is sufficient for communication. Everyone knows who you are talking about.

But, who knows about Price?

(Note: Florence Price is much overrated by the new generation of Classical Radio announcers. They are working too hard for diversity.)

There’s a ton of mediocre “new” composers being introduced on Classical Radio everywhere. They are given a place because they are not white males. Certainly not due to talent.


6 posted on 10/25/2020 1:15:28 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Borges

Where’s Bach?


7 posted on 10/25/2020 1:15:30 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: Borges

Someone tell me this is satire, please.


8 posted on 10/25/2020 1:15:33 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: Pravious

CRT has rendered satire irrelevant.


9 posted on 10/25/2020 1:16:11 PM PDT by Borges
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To: SES1066

“He called himself a verb, present tense. He’s not Stung. He’s not Stinging. He’s Sting.” - Dana Carvey


10 posted on 10/25/2020 1:16:47 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Borges

Wolfgang von Beethoven?


11 posted on 10/25/2020 1:17:01 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Borges

Satire, yes?


12 posted on 10/25/2020 1:17:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Borges

You have to do it with the Bachs, but most composers are just eaiser to use their last names.


13 posted on 10/25/2020 1:17:49 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: BenLurkin

No


14 posted on 10/25/2020 1:18:02 PM PDT by Borges
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To: LastDayz

15 posted on 10/25/2020 1:18:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Borges

It wouldn’t have anything to do with the fact that hardly anyone has ever heard of Tines and Dieudonné while Beethoven and Mozart are instantly recognizable, would it?


16 posted on 10/25/2020 1:18:38 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Dr. Sivana
Elvis Costello's real first name is Declan. Bono's first name is Paul.

Aretha and Elvis (surprisingly) were born with their names.

17 posted on 10/25/2020 1:19:41 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Orange Man GOOD!)
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To: dfwgator

LOL


18 posted on 10/25/2020 1:20:03 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: Borges

Is it O S C A R ?


19 posted on 10/25/2020 1:20:24 PM PDT by polymuser (A socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: ifinnegan

What a load of codswallop!


20 posted on 10/25/2020 1:20:48 PM PDT by Rockingham
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