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Medieval DNA suggests Columbus didn't trigger syphilis epidemic in Europe
ScienceMag.org ^
| August 13, 2020
| Charlotte Hartley
Posted on 08/17/2020 8:50:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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...the researchers are sticking to their original assumption instead of coming to a conclusion based on evidence.
and from the FRchives:
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posted on
08/17/2020 8:50:11 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
The syphilis keyword has a bunch of Bill Clinton topics for some reason.
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posted on
08/17/2020 8:50:56 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: SunkenCiv
To: SunkenCiv
I did not know they claimed this but it’s cool to know this.
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posted on
08/17/2020 8:56:28 PM PDT
by
Beowulf9
To: Ouchthatonehurt
I was thinking Clinton instead of Columbus before I even scrolled down. No cigar for me. :>)
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posted on
08/17/2020 9:01:00 PM PDT
by
boycott
To: Beowulf9
Erratum: I accidentally left in the Playboy topic, I guess the antiquity of the late Hugh Hefner threw me off my game.
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posted on
08/17/2020 9:01:57 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: SunkenCiv
Does this mean they will not tear down the Columbus statues? Asking for a friend....
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posted on
08/17/2020 9:04:36 PM PDT
by
volunbeer
(Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
To: volunbeer
Someone will start covering them with giant latex-free condoms (for protestors with a latex allergy).
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posted on
08/17/2020 9:06:34 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: boycott
Turns out, after he retired, Bill invented a time machine, and...
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posted on
08/17/2020 9:07:18 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: Ouchthatonehurt
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posted on
08/17/2020 9:08:12 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: volunbeer
If they are in Italian neighborhoods we are guarding them now.
We will bury blm and tell their mothers they are never coming home.
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posted on
08/17/2020 9:14:53 PM PDT
by
dp0622
(I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE COVID GODFATHER I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
To: SunkenCiv
So, ol’ Chris may have been a randy lad, but he didn’t bring home the Devil’s Crotch Crickets to the wife then, did he?
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posted on
08/17/2020 9:15:38 PM PDT
by
Viking2002
("If a really stupid person becomes senile......how can you tell?" - George Carlin)
To: SunkenCiv
This reminds me of a scene in the Naked Gun.
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posted on
08/18/2020 12:49:32 AM PDT
by
Trillian
To: SunkenCiv
To: SunkenCiv
I’d heard this idea years ago. There really was no evidence that the voyages spread syphilus in Europe. Some people just liked the idea.
On the flip side there was no evidence that Europeans spread tuberculosis in the New World either. Later on it was proven that tuberculosis has been in the New World for many thousands of years.
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08/18/2020 4:49:56 AM PDT
by
Varda
To: SunkenCiv
... some researchers suspect ... growing body of archaeological evidence ... suggestive ... some possibly dating to the 14th century ... with suspected syphilis ... estimate the ages ... radiocarbon dates are inherently uncertain ... dates into the early 1600s. I just love scientific facts.......................
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posted on
08/18/2020 5:15:55 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Jesus said "There is no marriage in Heaven." ... That's why they call it Heaven............)
To: Red Badger
You should. The idea of fixed, absolute knowledge was the first thing that was killed off by the scientific revolution. Even some scientists sometimes forget that.
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posted on
08/18/2020 5:32:47 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: Beowulf9
I did not know they claimed this but its cool to know this. It was a cultural exchange. Columbus gave the Indians smallpox, and they returned the favor with syphilis.
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posted on
08/18/2020 5:33:10 AM PDT
by
PGR88
To: Varda
There’s plenty of evidence that syphilis was not present in the “old world” prior to 1492. It’s well discussed in another topic around here (linked above). It poses a bit of difficulty for those like me who recognize the evidence for a great antiquity for oceanic navigation. Syphilis appears to have been homegrown in isolation in the “new world”.
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posted on
08/18/2020 5:35:53 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
To: Viking2002
He had too much on his mind. Given the cancel culture environment, I’m surprised there’s a big push to attribute a long history to syphilis in Europe. :^)
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posted on
08/18/2020 5:38:51 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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