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When Septimus Severus Invaded Scotland | Britain's African Emperor [3rd c AD]
Timeline via YouTube ^ | May 17, 2020 | All 3 Media / Little Dot Studios

Posted on 05/17/2020 6:28:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: Tuketu

I would add, rule of law, structure of government, and infrastructure around Italy and Europe.


21 posted on 05/17/2020 7:54:09 PM PDT by stuckincali
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To: Joe 6-pack

Good movie, but It is more likely that the 9th was defeated during the Bar Kokba rebellion in 132 AD


22 posted on 05/17/2020 9:16:46 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Joe 6-pack

That was a good movie. The Druid rituals seemed realistic.


23 posted on 05/18/2020 4:00:19 AM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tuketu
The Picts were whipped, badly, by Agricola, and by S.Severus. Agricola's campaign in Caledonia was so devastating it permanantly weakened the Picts, and made Scotland possible after the Roman era. IF there had been anything of any value in Scotland, the expense of conquering it might have looked attractive. Instead, the Roman army replaced an earlier barrier with the one seen today.
There's a modern nationalistic and anachronistic need for a resistance myth; in Germany it's the one battle won by Arminius; in Britain it's the mass-murdering Boudicca and her gullible horde, who were annihilated by a legion and a half and some cavalry; in France it's the utter defeat of Vercingetorix at Alesia by Julius Caesar; in Scotland it's, well, the Scots were in Ireland, so usually it's "look at Hadrian's Wall" which mostly follows the line of a natural geographic barrier, and isn't even the longest Roman barrier found in the Empire. Mostly it served as a barrier against infiltration and to control trade. It greatly reduced the garrison needed to rule Britain for over 350 years.
The Angles, Saxons, and Jutes came in a series of waves and overwhelmed the formerly Roman Britain, were (like Scotland and Ireland and the islands) fighting the Scandinivians for centuries after that (btw, thanks Vikings for 35% of my DNA), and eventually one of Alfred the Great's descendants and successors whipped the Scots, Welsh, and the Kdm of Strathclyde (along with Danes and Vikings from Northhumbria and overseas) in a single short series of battles in the first half of the 10th c.
After the Normans (who also had Scandinavian roots) conquered England they got invited over as mercs by one of the Irish kings who needed some extra muscle, and wound up staying in either part or all of Ireland until, well, the present day. Similarly, beginning in the early 12th c, and thanks to the Normans, Scotland was on-and-off under English rule and after the death of Eliz I a descendant of Henry VII was crowned monarch of the United Kingdom. The disastrous "Farty-five", the 1745 rising led by Bonnie Prince Charlie, was the last serious threat, unless one wants to count the attempt at Scottish exit that failed at the ballot box despite considerable support among English voters. :^)

24 posted on 05/18/2020 7:16:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: stuckincali
My pleasure.

25 posted on 05/18/2020 7:28:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BenLurkin; Bob Ireland; blueunicorn6; dynachrome; GreyFriar; gattaca; Jan_Sobieski; Joe 6-pack; ...
BTW, all, my apologies for that goof in the topic title, I just flat-out forgot to hand edit it out.

26 posted on 05/18/2020 7:32:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Apparently mine as well. My father’s name was Septime Severous Rxxxxxx, Jr. :)


27 posted on 05/18/2020 7:34:57 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: SunkenCiv

In your mind’s vast landscape of possibilities is there are scenario where Bonnie Price Charles could have won Scot indepence?


28 posted on 05/18/2020 7:48:40 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Democrat politicians prefer death)
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To: SunkenCiv

Writers knowingly use “African” to imply images of “black” Africans, when what the world knew and understood most about Africa 2,000 years ago, was North Africa, which was Carthaginian, Egyptian, Greek-Egytian, Berber, Arab and a minority of “blacks” up from Chad and places just south of the Sahara. That was most of Africa to the world of the ages of the Greek and Roman empires.

Severus was part Roman and part Carthaginian, and not representative of what readers today would equate with “African”, though from North Africa he was.


29 posted on 05/18/2020 8:35:02 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Patton: “It was here!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7ER08F9rGo


30 posted on 05/18/2020 8:39:23 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SunkenCiv

no problem. your posts are always interesting. Adds a lot to the site and an escape from the usual politics.


31 posted on 05/18/2020 8:54:08 AM PDT by stuckincali
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[snip] The power of the Praetorian Guard led to emperor Septimius Severus replacing the most notorious members with loyal legionaries from his Danube armies. Still, the Praetorian Guard would not go away as a powerful instrument of power, and in 217 CE, Macrinus, a praefectus praetorio, arranged the assassination of Caracalla and was declared emperor by his own men. Finally, Constantine I disbanded the Praetorian Guard in 312 CE after they had backed his rival Maxentius. The Praetorian Prefects would survive, though, as by now they had become important administrators of the regions of the East, Gaul, Illyricum, and Italy, a role they would continue to perform into the Byzantine period. [/snip]

https://www.ancient.eu/Praetorian_Guard/


32 posted on 05/18/2020 10:26:32 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: stuckincali
Thanks!

33 posted on 05/18/2020 10:27:52 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: dfwgator
I love that scene. The poem he wrote can be found, it's, uh, interesting, but doggerel imho.

34 posted on 05/18/2020 10:29:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Wuli
I agree, that is often true. The comments section at the vid has those kinds of comments (in agreement) but also the correction of sorts by a local.

35 posted on 05/18/2020 10:31:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Omar Bradley’s reaction is priceless, “What the heck is this guy talking about?”


36 posted on 05/18/2020 10:33:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Rosemary Sutcliff’s books are worth reading.


37 posted on 05/18/2020 7:45:38 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG ...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Read your quite biased reply. You are proud of your murderous Viking spit % blood but never carried a battle axe. A lot of “facts” are from YOUR point of view.


38 posted on 05/21/2020 4:30:57 PM PDT by Tuketu (The i(D)iot Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue. TRUMP is the solvent.)
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To: Tuketu
Not from bias, merely factual. By contrast, you're obviously professing an ability to read minds. Sod off.

39 posted on 05/21/2020 5:51:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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