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To: bagster
And yet you do. Participate, that is. With your every word, theory, and attack on the rational (flubros).

I don't think the flubros are being rational. I think they are advocating a position they wish to believe without being honest about evidence against it. I don't think they are looking at science, I think they are looking at politics and economics.

Sure, those are very important, but if they get the science wrong, they may do more damage than any political or economic benefit. They may end up penny wise and dollar foolish.

And yet you tow the derp state line on this manufactured crisis.

That it is a "manufactured" crises is an assertion, and in my opinion an unproven assertion at that. I have kept up with this thing since early February, and nothing I saw indicated to me that China was deliberately manufacturing a crises. It looked like they were flailing madly and desperately in an effort to save themselves in any manner they could. If it was an act, "Bravo!"

Since I don't believe China manufactured this crises, (although I can see an angle as to why they might have done so) why should I believe the US manufactured this crises? I don't believe Liberals are that smart. I don't think Trump is trying to manufacture a crises.

I think they saw what looked like a crises, and latched on to it for their own political and economic benefit. As some loathsome Democrat said, "Never let a crises go to waste." (Rahm Emmanuel I think.) I don't think they created it.

This rona is part of the corrupt influence cartel that you claim to recognize. You just don't recognize this as an aspect of it. You believe the hype, which tells me that you still haven't completely kicked your addiction to derp state influence.

I prefer to characterize this as "not seeing a boogie man behind every bush." I long ago lost my appetite for indulging improbable conspiracy theories.

Yea, I know. And therein lies the problem. I link the derp state to China and China to this virus and its intentional release at the perfect time, and in response to the ongoing shadow war that Trump and America are currently waging.

Now here you point out the undeniable fact that this thing has coincidentally been very good for a lot of our enemies. It gave China a good reason to lock down Hong Kong, where the protests were causing them no end of trouble, and it is definitely hurting Trump's economy during an election year. It is playing into the hands of petty dictator governors and federal bureaucrats, and doing long lasting damage to various essential components of our economy.

On the other hand, it is also reinforcing the point that Trump was right about immigration and borders. Trump was right about domestic production of essential goods. Trump was right about the Chinese being untrustworthy and a bellicose adversary.

But did China create this to deal with Hong Kong and Trump? From what i've read, this thing has done horrendous damage to their domestic industries. It's cost them many trillions in lost business and lost influence. It has arguably done them worse damage to themselves than it has to us. If you've been keeping up with China's economic activity, you might know that their economy has long been much more fragile than what most people know. They took it in the shorts on this one.

It's all very obvious and right there in front of our eyes, if you choose to see and connect the dots.

Clearly much of this works in the favor of Trump's enemies. But you can't just ignore the counter evidence. That's that "seeing what you wish to see" thing that I have learned is a bad way to proceed. Yes, I see the economic and political ramifications of this thing. I put them in one category, and I put the disease threat in another category, and I try not to let my infectious disease category influence my politics and economics category, and vice versa.

Any voice in favor of what the derps are telling us, is a voice against Trump and the people he represents. And America.

The dangerousness of this virus is not contingent upon what people think or what "team" they play for. It is an objective matter for which we should ascertain the truth.

The cat is either dead or alive. We need to open the box and find out which, and quit concerning ourselves with opinions on it's status.

204 posted on 04/30/2020 3:49:42 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Sure, those are very important, but if they get the science wrong...

I think its the fearbros that are getting the science wrong. Evidence being how they are silencing opposing viewpoints to their narrative. The science is a lie, just like the inflated and false numbers are.

False data to influence the people by spreading panic and fear. A panicked and fearful people is an easily manipulated people. This thing goes far beyond science. The agenda must be looked at. Watch and listen to WHO is saying what.

Does it not concern you that the left wing derptards are the ones advocating the panicked reaction, lockdown, and suspension of the Constitution?

That says something.

nothing I saw indicated to me that China was deliberately manufacturing a crises.

First you have to understand the nature of the Deep (I call it Derp) State. Its not just Hillary and Obama and our domestic enemies. It's a world wide thing, and at the moment, includes China.

This is not purely a heathen Chinee op. It's a Derp State op, with heavy Chinese involvement. China released the bug and made sure it spread throughout the world. The American derps took it from there. And right now, you are helping them, whether you know or believe it or not.

I don't think Trump is trying to manufacture a crises.

Trump is not manufacturing anything. He is managing it. Countering it as best he can. Imagine if he had reacted as he originally done, calling it that hoax that he knows it to be. Every.Single.Death would have been laid upon his table. The headlines were already written. I'm sure you can imagine what they would have been.

That was the original derp plan. They thought he would call it the hoax that it is and they could write their scripts.

He flipped it on them, as he has done so often. He sacrificed a rook (the economy) to win the game.

He will come out of this unscathed, like usual. Another failed derp takedown attempt. What will they try next?

In the meantime, Durham is coming. And they fear. The rona is a panic move.


210 posted on 04/30/2020 4:23:01 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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