He is catholic, and of course he and his wife wanted to go see the Vatican.
I think it depends on where in Italy - the north is very clean, while the boot and sicily are dirty
“is the most filthy place he has ever seen.” ...........Been there, not much worse than what I experienced in areas in Manhattan and the surrounding area. On the east coast of Italy it was clean in the areas I visited. The thing that got me the most was the train toilets. You didn’t flush them, it all dropped onto the tracks while moving. While sitting down it was like being a bombardier on a bombing run if you looked down. LOL!!