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(Vanity) Dealing With Teenage Nazis
Freerepublic ^ | 02/17/2020 | Jewbacca

Posted on 02/17/2020 1:27:13 PM PST by Jewbacca

Looking for some advice dealing with a horrid little kid.

One of my younger daughters attends a non-Jewish secular STEM school in the USA. (It is about 1/4 Jewish.) She is a freshman. Very, very smart -- as in 1460 PSAT freshman smart, all high As, multilingual. GREAT athlete.

With considerable reluctance, I allowed her to participate in a program where young ladies are "presented" in society. She looked lovely and frum.

There is a young boy that has caused a bit of a trouble for her over the years. He's smart, father a bird colonel in the USAF, mother a doctor. He is not Jewish. I have a professional relationship with the father.

Said boy, about a year ago, thought it funny to draw swastikas on my daughter's school book. We blew it off.

Recently, at the above-mentioned social function, in the limo (with about 20 kids), he plugged in a rap song about how fun it is to kill Jews. (The other boys, all non-Jewish in the vehicle, strongly objected and made him turn it off.)

Mrs. Jewbacca is of the mind to blow this off and simply avoid the little s--t.

After my initial desire to beat the crap out of a 15 year old boy passed, I am left with a quandary.

Do I say anything? Specifically, do I speak to the father? If so, what do I say? I am of mixed minds, as I presume they learn this stuff at home. But his father (who very much knows I am Israeli) has never been anything but professional. And I would want to know if my kid was being a stupid s--t.

And the motive may not be antisemitism, in that, objectively speaking, my daughter is pretty (and smarter) and the kid is a bit of a fat troll.


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To: Jewbacca
Do I say anything?

Refer to Rogers and Hammerstein's "South Pacific";

You've got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You've got to be taught
From year to year,
It's got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.

Speak to the father.

21 posted on 02/17/2020 1:40:42 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (There is not a climate bedwetter who is not a total hypocrite.)
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To: Jewbacca

I’d raise it up through the “chain of command.” Let the kid know how you feel and tell him to knock it off. If that doesn’t work talk to the father.


22 posted on 02/17/2020 1:41:39 PM PST by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Jewbacca
Talk to the father; give him a rundown of what his son has done, but just try to be calm about it.

Outside influences, rather than what the kid heard at home, just might be the problem. If it has come from the home, you need to know that too!

Is your daughter doing the "pre-Deb" thing?

23 posted on 02/17/2020 1:42:29 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Jewbacca
Chubby likes your kid, duh 🙄
24 posted on 02/17/2020 1:42:31 PM PST by Phil DiBasquette
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To: Phil DiBasquette

“Chubby likes your kid, duh”

This is Mrs. Jewbacca’s theory.


26 posted on 02/17/2020 1:46:35 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

Too many players, too much background, aggrandizement,
self-involvement and description so I can’t help you but you taught me a new word — “frum”


27 posted on 02/17/2020 1:46:51 PM PST by yetidog
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To: Jewbacca

The kid sounds like an asshole who needs a lesson in manners and respect. Talk to his dad about his inappropriate behavior first. If that doesn’t work, see if you can get a Holocaust survivor to speak to the class. Maybe that will shame him into straightening hes act up.

Shalom.


28 posted on 02/17/2020 1:47:13 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (If gun ownership by private citizens scares DemocRats, the 2nd Amendment is doing its job.)
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To: Jewbacca

To repeatedly do this or similar, doesn’t sound like he’s ‘making a joke’. It sounds like he’s making a statement, albeit one thinly disguised as a joke.

Best case scenario would be if your daughter decide on her own to sever the relationship, or at least discuss any such concerns with the boy (away from their peers!). She knows how that sounds, but like any teen, she likes being part of a fun group.

The second best case scenario would be if you could tell your daughter of your objections, and suggest she stop seeing this boy. Not every family or individual is comfortable being that straightforward.

Another choice would be to speak with the Dad. It should be face to face if possible. That would avoid him getting some other message than what you have to say. Some folks don’t react well to Correction Tips when done in writing, even when the Tips are done in the spirit of wanting to help. I know this from direct experience.

The Dad needs to know that this is how you see it.
If it’s a concern to you, likely it has also been noted by other people too. Do not argue. Simply state you don’t want such an influence around your daughter.


29 posted on 02/17/2020 1:47:16 PM PST by lee martell
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To: EvilCapitalist

I interact with teens a lot, that would have absolutely no impact on them. These kids aren’t unaware or misinformed, they get dumped tons of information on the Holocaust.

They’re nihilistic and don’t care. A lot of them are doing it to be edgy and rebellious against heavyhanded attempts at education. I talked to one kid and he said he trolled his teacher by saying “Hitler did nothing wrong” because she was making him watch Schindler’s list for the 4th time in his schooling and it made her cry.


30 posted on 02/17/2020 1:48:23 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: malach; nopardons

“but just try to be calm about it”

“do not get into an Israeli style argument.”

Ah, you’ve met people from my country.

I have to admit, my absolute first desired response was breathtakingly illegal.


31 posted on 02/17/2020 1:48:31 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca
I wouldn't make a big deal of it since it does sound more like a stupid kid than a kid who is immersed in a family full of bigots, but I would talk to his father if the opportunity arises.

I would couch it in terms of helping the kid out, and not specifically in terms of how he treats your daughter. It sounds like her peers at school aren't about to tolerate that kind of bigotry and anti-semitism. Nor will just about anyone else he meets in the future.

That said, I'd make sure your daughter understood that she has no obligation to put up with any anti-semitic crap from anyone, and you are 110% ready to support her and defend her.

32 posted on 02/17/2020 1:49:00 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: lee martell

“you could tell your daughter of your objections, and suggest she stop seeing this boy.”

He’s a friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend. She doesn’t “see” him.

There was no escort or date involved in this.


33 posted on 02/17/2020 1:50:41 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

Ask The Rabbi:

https://itsgoodtoknow.org/ask-the-rabbi/


34 posted on 02/17/2020 1:51:27 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: Jewbacca
The other boys, all non-Jewish in the vehicle, strongly objected and made him turn it off.

I'm quite heartened to hear that. Perhaps that peer pressure alone will turn him around. I think those other boys are going to remember that and he may even lose some friends as a result of that horrid thing he did.

35 posted on 02/17/2020 1:51:49 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Jewbacca

I wonder if a restraining order could be filed. That might wake up his dad.


36 posted on 02/17/2020 1:51:56 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: Shadow44

Good post. Real learning is not done when propaganda is rammed down your throat.

It is a process of discovery that each child must initiate on their own.

Good teachers understand this—poor teachers do not.


37 posted on 02/17/2020 1:52:02 PM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: freeandfreezing

“I would couch it in terms of helping the kid out,”

Wise.


38 posted on 02/17/2020 1:52:30 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

Go to the kids house. Ring the bell, I the father s answers punch him out. My dad did that with a couple of the fathers who would whose kids bullied me. It stopped.


40 posted on 02/17/2020 1:53:11 PM PST by jmacusa ("If wisdom is not the Lord, what is wisdom?)
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