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To: familyop

I bothered to read the actual transcript of the phone call. They make the disclaimer that it isn’t verbatum, as it is based on a person (two people?) listening to the call and taking notes, so something might have been missed.

The two presidents are trying to be friendly - the Ukraine one more so - a bit over the top in my opinion. Trump mentions the former(?) Ukraine prosecutor that dropped the investigation into the Ukraine company that Biden was with. And dropped it due to political pressure. Trump hopes that the Ukraine president will reopen that investigation.

The Ukraine guy says that he too has a swamp to drain, and is changing a lot of those corrupt people and will look into it - or reopen the investigation - something like that.

The conversation isn’t that long.

https://www.abc10.com/article/news/nation-world/full-memo-text-trump-call-with-ukraine-president-volodymyr-zelensky/507-1143710f-e3bd-4a6a-b4e2-e80abf1dd933


34 posted on 09/28/2019 11:49:33 PM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: 21twelve

Yes. Thanks. Stenographers are very fast and accurate, by the way. With stenos on each side and translators to arrange the comments and replies perfectly chronologically, there’s accuracy. Wouldn’t presidents of nations have the best? Democrats have been dishonest about that issue.

Here’s the White House copy of the transcript of the call between President Trump and President Zelenskyy of Ukraine.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

And here’s the White House copy of the leaker’s complaint. It looks like propaganda written by lawyers, journalists or other academic activists for public consumption. I’ve analyzed propaganda approaches for about 25 years as a learning experience.

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf


37 posted on 09/29/2019 12:14:06 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: 21twelve
"Trump hopes that the Ukraine president will reopen that investigation."

It appears that he did ask Zelenskyy if he could talk with the Attorney General about the illegal exchange that Biden bragged about coercing, but President Trump didn't seek any personal gain, didn't threaten to withhold anything from Ukraine or offer anything in return for Zelenskyy's attention to the matter.

50 posted on 09/29/2019 1:36:34 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: 21twelve

I bothered to read the actual transcript of the phone call. They make the disclaimer that it isn’t verbatum,


These calls are recorded. An actual transcript would be a verbatim transcript. Any other written form about the call is just notes from which only an outline can be discerned.


55 posted on 09/29/2019 1:52:36 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: 21twelve

This was from April 1st, by the way. Biden bragged about his own wrongdoing long before President Trump’s discussion with Zelenskyy. I wouldn’t be surprised, if the investigation has been in process much longer.

Joe Biden’s 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived
BY JOHN SOLOMON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 04/01/19 09:37 PM EDT
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/436816-joe-bidens-2020-ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived


57 posted on 09/29/2019 1:59:53 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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