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To: jazusamo
Truths:
+Rose had a Hall of Fame worthy career.
+Bench benefited from having Rose hit in front of him.
+Rose benefited from having a hitter like Bench drive him in.
+Both benefited by having other great players on the Big Red Machine.
+Rose bet on baseball, lied about it for years, and earned his ban.
+Now that MLB has got in bed with organized gambling it is somewhat hypocritical for them to keep Rose out of the HOF for engaging in an activity they now actively promote.
49 posted on 06/06/2019 12:06:20 PM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: fungoking

+Rose had a Hall of Fame worthy career.
The only guys in the Hall with offensive numbers as mediocre as Rose are there for their defense, having played SS, CF, 2B or C. Rose started at 2B but moved to OF and 1B eventually because he wasn’t good enough defensively. No other 1B has stats as bad as Rose. (He would have been a DH in the AL... if he could hit better!)

+Bench benefited from having Rose hit in front of him.
FALSE! Rose was below average, compared to other people hitting in his spot in the batting order.

+Now that MLB has got in bed with organized gambling it is somewhat hypocritical for them to keep Rose out of the HOF for engaging in an activity they now actively promote.
TRUE! He should be kept out because his only noteworthy accomplishment was playing seven years after he should have retired.


85 posted on 06/06/2019 12:41:16 PM PDT by dangus
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