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To: Olog-hai

The MPs would propose laws and get votes on them, but if they opposed a law, they would be overruled by England who had more votes. In the EU council they get a veto vote

MEPs can propose laws to the EU commission to prepare and bring to vote. The Commission cannot come up with laws on its own.

the commission is NOT the body that passes laws - that is the EU parliament (analgous to US Congress) and the EU council (analogous to the US senate) that does that

Ireland has more independence and power in the EU than it ever had under the English


24 posted on 05/24/2019 7:04:38 AM PDT by Cronos (Obama hated Assad as he wasn't a Muslim but an Alawite)
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To: Cronos

You don’t get it. There is no separation of powers. Imagine if Congress had to propose laws to the President, who then decides whether to draft a bill? The European Parliament has no legislative power.

We have been over this before. The EU operates exactly the same way the USSR did and Red China does, with the Commission acting as Politburo and the Parliament acting as Supreme Soviet/National People’s Congress.


25 posted on 05/24/2019 10:46:42 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Cronos

The Commission absolutely does pass laws all the time. Not every law gets voted on by the European Council, and the Treaty of Lisbon now allows for so-called “qualified majority voting” to shut out the voices of those countries that dissent.

Again, the derivation of the EU was based on the United Nations, which in turn was based on the 1936 USSR constitution. Repeating lies do not make them truth. Ireland has no independence whatsoever; all of its laws at EU level are dictated and they have no say.


26 posted on 05/24/2019 10:49:53 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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