Posted on 04/07/2019 1:06:12 AM PDT by L.A.Justice
My point is that most of the bibles these days have been translated and re-translated so much that finding a consistent truth between them is as much work translating greek.
I learned my “truth” 50 years ago. I am good and I agree with your point of view. 99% of people riding a King James Bible or some other “modern” version have no idea of the history of what they are reading.
I guess that is why the major religions of the world are based on rote teaching, rather than a Socratic discussion about the right and wrong—based on context—and real truths.
Is it just me, or does that dress scream, “Look at my tits”?
Prayers up.
How the hell do you get a ruptured colon unless you're...
...well.
What is schizophrenia: It is a term wide open to slippery description. Trusting in Christ has benefitted more people suffering from derangement of thinking processes than Prozac, Xanax, Ativan, Seroquel, etc. They seem to create more confusion than they diminish. I'd bet.
Anatomy of an Epidemic (click here)
In the above, you are mixing paradigms. Cancer has a physical cause, and whether it is early onset, or in old age--my FRiend you are infected with a terminal disease right now, and its result is death of your body. It is called "sin" and that affects both mind and body. Terminally.
On the other hand, no one has ever died from "schizophrenia," whatever you think it is. Erratic behavior? Yes. Is it an infection or a cell irregularity, cured by a "magic bullet" like, say, thorazine? No.
I'll take the Jesus of the Bible over the DSM-5, or any of its pretentious predecessors. The stabilizing factor is power over behavior now, and the prospect of everlasting abundant life to come. Even if you can't get it all together right now, there will be a change when rational Biblical thought is involved and exercised.
My Dad was sick for the last three years of his life, and while it was sad for me, it certainly didn’t make me check into a Mental Health Facility.
Britney seemed to lose it about the time Christina Aguilera released “Beautiful”.
...which by the way, is one of the most powerful performances I’ve ever heard.
“What is schizophrenia: It is a term wide open to slippery description.“
Actually it’s pretty well defined by the medical community. Look it up for yourself.
“Trusting in Christ has benefitted more people suffering from derangement of thinking processes than Prozac, Xanax, Ativan, Seroquel, etc.”
You’re probably correct on that.
“They seem to create more confusion than they diminish. I’d bet.”
You’d lose that bet. I’ve seen schizophrenia up close and personal. Medication properly prescribed and taken was far more effective than prayer alone. The Good Lord gave us doctors, after all.
“In the above, you are mixing paradigms. Cancer has a physical cause, and whether it is early onset, or in old age-”
So does schizophrenia. If it didn’t medication wouldn’t help one single bit. They’ve no more identified the physical cause of it than they have cancer. All they can do is diagnose it in most cases. Whether or not one contracts it is a crap shoot.
“my FRiend you are infected with a terminal disease right now, and its result is death of your body. It is called “sin”
No, it’s called Life. Nobody gets out of it alive.
“On the other hand, no one has ever died from “schizophrenia,” whatever you think it is.”
Wanna bet? The “voices” these people hear lead to all kinds of self destructive behavior many of which lead to death.
“Yes. Is it an infection or a cell irregularity, cured by a “magic bullet” like, say, thorazine? No.”
Neither can many cancers. Some can be cured with aggressive treatment, true. But many cannot. I watched my brother die from one of the “easy” cancers two years ago. This was in spite of his yearly checkups, blood tests, scans and the like. Not one single doctor could tell us the root cause of it or why it came back. Not one.
“I’ll take the Jesus of the Bible over the DSM-5, or any of its pretentious predecessors.”
That’s your choice. And I most sincerely hope no one you love is ever afflicted with serious mental illness. It’s hideous and no amount of prayer has ever cured it. Not that I’ve seen anyway. Proper diagnosis and medications can control it, however.
This I have seen with my own eyes.
Have a nice day.
L
I know people in their 60s and 70s who look ten times better."
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You are so right.
She has come a long way from the cute little girl she was.
What Hollywood and the rest of the sleazebags have done to her is exactly what THE LEFT has done to America for at least 50 years.
Our country/government is as decayed as she has become.
Time to put the government/media criminals in prison.
She was raised in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. Her mom made an appearance on 700 Club, sharing the faith stand she has been taking for her daughter. Agreeing with her mom that she has finally come to the end of herself and will bow her knee to Jesus’ Lordship.
I have, and it keeps changing.
You’d lose that bet. I’ve seen schizophrenia up close and personal. Medication properly prescribed and taken was far more effective than prayer alone..
(1) I meet every month as a sidelines observer of some people who are engaged with getting a clearer picture of this community than the one the local professionals present to the public and to the objects of their policy-making. Schizophrenia to them seems to be a kind of catch-all for complex avoidance of accountability for both.
(2) I wish I could be confident that you are aware of the reporting on the field by someone else than the enablers of the disarray in dealing with mental problems. Although the drugs seem initially to provide relief, in the end they cause more problems than the ones they address. Are you not aware of articles such as those of Robert Whitaker? I'm hoping you have taken time to look at the links I posted.
(3) As to prayer, are you talking about the effects of someone praying for the troubled person, or is the person doing the praying the afflicted one, and if so, does that person actually have a genuine relationship with the Creator and His Son? If not, we're not even in the same room while the matter is being discussed.
Wanna bet? The “voices” these people hear lead to all kinds of self destructive behavior many of which lead to death.
Whoa there! Cancer is a bodily disease that generally one does not choose to invite into one's life. It kills because of bodily function, not as a consequence of bad choices. On the other hand, the deaths of otherwise bodily healthy people due to attitudes of the mind that foster endangering activity is not the same at all. I point to the experiences of the Gergesene (Mt. 8:28+) and the Gadarene (Lk.8:26+) who were changed through their contact with the Jesus of the Bible. But better than this, I can take you back forty years to my own deep depression and the different outlook that changed my life when I committed it to be the servant of God's Son. Though I never had any psychotic experiences, I have known some people that did, and were returned to sanity by their true personal acceptance of accountability to God.
And I most sincerely hope no one you love is ever afflicted with serious mental illness. It’s hideous and no amount of prayer has ever cured it. Not that I’ve seen anyway. Proper diagnosis and medications can control it, however.
I have, and the situation was with one very close, the one of all the family who exhibited oppositional defiance of the kind that destroyed a family in both finances and relationships, one whose diet was a dogs-breakfast of psychoactive drugs, and who after professing to be "Christian," rejected the whole thing and would not bear any kind of resemblance to a reasonable person. These drugs, not professional counseling (sister was a qualified clinical counselor, herself a fringe case of acceptable behaviors), nor religious family counseling that helped others but not herself. My friend, her problem was not admitting her sins, and failing to turn to the Savior for her regeneration as a new spiritual being. What that kind of personal choice to resist sanity drives one into a borderline unsane behavior with dipping into what I would think were psychotic frenzies.
What I have said here, may not make sense to you, and I would understand why.
I am not looking in any way to start a fight or to rant on. Its just that you and I don't see things quite the same way, I guess. So don't walk away angry, I did not intend that.
A bit late in life, but I hope this is for real. But the “mental health” people will probably have another slant on how to get emotionally straight that does not include 1 John 1:9 as the approach that works. It probably will involve in just redirecting which drugs to take. I would pray otherwise, an approach that would glorify God, not the psychoheresy guys.
“I am not looking in any way to start a fight or to rant on.“
I never thought you were.
“Its just that you and I don’t see things quite the same way, I guess.”
I agree and that’s okay. No offense intended and none taken.
“So don’t walk away angry, I did not intend that.”
I’m quite sure you didn’t. And I won’t. I wish you the best.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
L
OK, it’s still the Lord’s Day. Let’s keep it that way, eh?
“OK, it’s still the Lord’s Day. Let’s keep it that way, eh?”
I agree. Got some burgers on the grill and a cold beer waiting for me.
Enjoy the rest of your day.
L
What if your nails are so short as to preclude clipping any off for analysis?
Regards,
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