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To: grey_whiskers

I’m still curious about what Pan Pan means though. And the other call the poster mentioned “securite’ securite’”, that too would be a French term.

Interesting that French terms are used for naval distress calls since the Crown’s navy has always ruled the seas, but I guess it’s as you say, English and French got a bit mashed together for a few hundred years.


1,031 posted on 03/24/2019 7:47:58 AM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: ichabod1
I’m still curious about what Pan Pan means though

As with mayday (from venez m'aider, "come help me"), the urgency signal pan-pan derives from French. In French, a panne ([pan] — /pɑːn/, "pahn") is a breakdown, such as a mechanical failure. In English, it is also sometimes[vague] pronounced as /pæn/ ("pan"). A three-letter backronym, "possible assistance needed" or "pay attention now" derives from pan. Maritime and aeronautical radio communications courses use those as mnemonics to convey the important difference between mayday and pan-pan.

1,048 posted on 03/24/2019 8:18:46 AM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: ichabod1

The international airline language used to be French, until circa 1972 (I think)


1,105 posted on 03/24/2019 11:22:04 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: ichabod1; LonePalm

“I’m still curious about what Pan Pan means though. And the other call the poster mentioned “securite’ securite’”, that too would be a French term.

Interesting that French terms are used for naval distress calls since the Crown’s navy has always ruled the seas, but I guess it’s as you say, English and French got a bit mashed together for a few hundred years.”

(Je Ne parle pa Francais Y’all!)

We could ask the internet, but we have experts right here on FR! Ransom could probably do the French, but LonePalm has few more ship board duty watches under his belt! (Am I wrong Ransom?)


1,285 posted on 03/24/2019 3:20:41 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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