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ULA Calls Off 2nd Attempt to Launch Spy Satellite from Vandenberg Air Force 7 Seconds Before Liftoff
ktla ^ | 12/09/2018

Posted on 12/09/2018 7:55:47 AM PST by BenLurkin

Small flames could be seen igniting at the base of the engines before they quickly disappeared The rocket remained still.

With favorable weather conditions, Saturday’s launch was originally slated for 8:06 p.m., but a brief stop in the countdown to troubleshoot a problem pushed the liftoff back to 8:15 p.m., the company said.

All systems were “go” until the countdown was halted just seven second before liftoff after a problem was detected, ULA said. The attempt was cancelled for the night, but it was not clear when ULA will try again.

ULA is working in conjunction with the Air Force’s 30th Space Wing on the launch, dubbed NROL-71.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 30thspacewing; elonmusk; falcon9; falconheavy; nro; nrol71; skynet; spacex; ula; unitedlaunchalliance; vandenberg

1 posted on 12/09/2018 7:55:47 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Darn!

Coming that close, the restart of the next countdown is harder. Water flush systems were running, rocket tanks were topped off and cooled down, internal power had been on for a bit. Takes a while to get everything ready to get “ready to restart”.


2 posted on 12/09/2018 8:04:45 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: BenLurkin

To me it looked like the boosters discolored, like a burn inside blistering the paint.
What you think?


3 posted on 12/09/2018 8:11:33 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: BenLurkin

Imported Chinese components?


4 posted on 12/09/2018 8:21:10 AM PST by DickBrannigan ("And the fact that I haven't put a gun in my mouth, you pudding of a woman, makes me a winner!")
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To: Vinnie

Dunno. Not a rocket scientist (not by a long shot) but did get the sense that things were about to go very wrong.


5 posted on 12/09/2018 8:23:35 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Pushing the launch back, just to be safe, is a whole lot cheaper than building another version of everything after an explosion.


6 posted on 12/09/2018 8:24:08 AM PST by Two Kids' Dad (((( "Honest Democrat" is a contradiction in terms ))))
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To: BenLurkin

I thought rocket launches had become routine 40 years ago.


7 posted on 12/09/2018 8:55:18 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

I was watching. Flames erupted around the bases of the first stage and boosters. Looked like they were 6 to 8 feet tall, not pressurized but just licking around the cases. Black sooty smoke came from them, rising the entire length of the delta IV. I was expecting an explosive failure any second. I saw no signs of any extinguishers or other automated fire suppression. The flames just died out, as if whatever was burning had been completely consumed.
The fire looked like it was outside the nozzles!? Next to but Not the rocket boosters themselves, perhaps. But I believe the ignitores on these SRBs are well within the casings.
Frankly, since it didn’t blow up, it ought to take 5 minutes to figure out what was burning. Why and How ignited, that may be a challenge.
With Delta IV reliability, does anyone recall a similar incident, either on a single or heavy?
Has anyone wondered about sabotage yet?


8 posted on 12/09/2018 8:57:44 AM PST by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: muffaletaman

Yes, there ARE flames deliberately started under the engines before the rocket motors start up, and those rocket motors start off and burn for a few seconds before the clamps release and the rocket begins “liftoff”.

The rocket motors have to start off before the rocket is released to stabilize fuel flow and oxidizer (liquid oxygen) flow to the burners before they can create the thrust to move the rocket up. (Thus the clamps holding everything sown to the concrete foundation.) The turbine exhausts receive the purging LOX liquid and liquid propellant for a few seconds as they cool down, and that mixture is explosive/flammable. If the rocket motor has ignoted, the purged gases and turbo exhaust just pass into the far larger exhaust flames and no problem results.

But before rocket engine ignition, big problems would obviously result. Thus the flames under the rocket before ignition: Those flames burn the vented oxygen and vented propellant at low rates around the bottom of the rocket before they accumulate and blow everything up.

Well, something sent wrong elsewhere, and so the rocket engines never reached “ignition” at countdown steps between 5 and “0” . “0” being “release the hold down clamps”.


9 posted on 12/09/2018 9:30:53 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

Yeah, not exactly like “she’s flooded, just give it a little while for the gas to evaporate then try again...”


10 posted on 12/09/2018 9:53:47 AM PST by ThunderSleeps ( Be ready!)
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To: Robert A Cook PE

Gotcha and understand.
Sort of like burning off vented flammable gas from anything... refinery, hydrogen reduction furnace, etc.
So the black sooty smoke from something else burning is most significant.
Not at all the same... but I can’t help but remember the puff of black sooty smoke at the Challenger liftoff.


11 posted on 12/09/2018 1:13:16 PM PST by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: muffaletaman
Flames erupted around the bases of the first stage and boosters.

That is normal ... occurs at every launch of a Delta-IV, when they burn off accumulated hydrogen around the launch pad. The announcer even explained it. Numerous Ewe-tewb videos also discuss this.

12 posted on 12/09/2018 1:14:51 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Jeff Chandler
I thought rocket launches had become routine 40 years ago.
40 years ago we used REAL rocket scientists.
13 posted on 12/09/2018 1:19:06 PM PST by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: ThunderSleeps

“Yeah, not exactly like “she’s flooded, just give it a little while for the gas to evaporate then try again...”

But please don’t give it full throttle like on a carbed car engine.


14 posted on 12/09/2018 1:21:03 PM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: BenLurkin

Anyone know the next launch date?


15 posted on 12/10/2018 10:36:11 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

ULA has not announced a new launch date.


16 posted on 12/10/2018 10:41:23 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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