[JockoManning]

Perhaps the issue is HOW to prevent the growth in government; HOW to insure a minimum amount of government and HOW to install effective term limits; HOW to force the congresscritters to abide by the same laws they make for the rest of us.

I'd still like to see a minimum of secrecy. I've seen what excessive secrecy results in. It's horrible beyond what is evident.

[little jeremiah]

The only way a good government can happen is with people in government who believe in right and wrong (and choose right!), know the difference between truth and lies, have a servant mentality not lord mentality. Any good laws, regulations, restraints or whatever don’t matter if those in government are criminal minded.

That is the real problem, the criminals in government. Any criminal in government can circumvent, lie, twist, bend any good law or whatever kind of restraints there are.

It’s a people problem.

Of course there are rotten, rotten laws right now - written and voted on by rotten people!