*Yulee:
<<< “ Even more so, when one realizes that Socialist/Communist goals have merged with Islamists goals. all aimed at the destruction of our Republic.
Dictators, whether Socialist or Islamist, always have a unflinching loyalty to the destruction of individual freedom, and the supremacy of the state. “ >>>
*musicnart:
<<< “ Spot on observations. Seems like we could be talking about this more... “ >>>
Anecdotally..
Of some interest, (FYI) in the Catholic world around the globe, remains one hundred years of murmurings, about the c.1917 Fatima warning given to the three young children of Fatima, Portugal, wherein the Blessed Mother directed:
That the Holy Father, together with all the bishops of the world, must consecrate RUSSIA (specifically Russia, and no other) to her Immaculate Heart, lest *its errors spread to the world*.
The message, by little Lucia, was properly relayed to the Pope of the time and was known by the proceeding popes, but geo-political risks were thought fearsome for them to be heard naming RUSSIA out loud and specifically, and therefore it was dreaded to do so, and therefore obedience to the warning was quite delayed, until John Paul II, finally addressed the warning and did make “ a consecration “, however, it is thought that he possibly fudged it, when he instead, consecrated the “whole world”, and outside of the company or together with the bishops of the world.
Thus, because was done late and eschewed exact obedience, it is observed that Russia over time did come to relent from persecuting the Russian Orthodox Catholic faith, and which is allowed to flourish, with cathedrals restored, new ones built, and miraculously the faith had not died.
Ahh, but the “errors of Russia” spread, with two World Wars (involving Germany) and exponentially now ISLAM rises.
Presently, it is once again GERMANY who is at the tip of the spear, leading the Catholic Church in the West to Hell and back.
Are there any coincidences?
PS: Too much information.. by now, but...
Africa now stands out among a few others, as the last solid bastion and geo-religiously the largest standard bearer of the old, Traditional Catholic Church, which with Vatican II was vandalized and displaced (nearly wiped out) by Western influence, and whose old Mass today are now labeled labeled as, “Extra Ordinary”.
There are very, very few, aproximately fewer than 300 functioning old Traditional Catholic churches left in the United States.
The New Mass is un-affectionately labeled NO Mass-at-all. This term, “NO” is shorthand, for the *new* Novus Ordo Mass, which is the Ordinary Mass of the people.
Are there any coincidences?
Yulee:
<<< “ Even more so, when one realizes that Socialist/Communist goals have merged with Islamists goals. all aimed at the destruction of our Republic.
Dictators, whether Socialist or Islamist, always have an unflinching loyalty to the destruction of individual freedom, and the supremacy of the state. “ >>>
*musicnart:
<<< “ Spot on observations. Seems like we could be talking about this more... “ >>>
Anecdotally..
Of some interest, (FYI) in the Catholic world around the globe, remains one hundred years of murmurings, about the c.1917 Fatima warning given to the three young children of Fatima, Portugal, wherein the Blessed Mother directed:
That the Holy Father, together with all the bishops of the world, must consecrate RUSSIA (specifically Russia, and no other) to her Immaculate Heart, lest *its errors spread to the world*.
The message, by little Lucia, was properly relayed to the Pope of the time and was known by the proceeding popes, but geo-political risks were thought fearsome for them to be heard naming RUSSIA out loud and specifically, and therefore it was dreaded to do so, and therefore obedience to the warning was quite delayed, until John Paul II, finally addressed the warning and did make “ a consecration “, however, it is thought that he possibly fudged it, when he instead, consecrated the “whole world”, and outside of the company or together with the bishops of the world.
Thus, because was done late and eschewed exact obedience, it is observed that Russia over time did come to relent from persecuting the Russian Orthodox Catholic faith, and which is allowed to flourish, with cathedrals restored, new ones built, and miraculously the faith had not died.
Ahh, but the “errors of Russia” spread, with two World Wars (involving Germany) and exponentially now ISLAM rises.
Presently, it is once again GERMANY who is at the tip of the spear, leading the Catholic Church in the West to Hell and back.
Are there any coincidences?
PS: Too much information.. by now, but...
Africa now stands out among a few others, as the last solid bastion and geo-religiously the largest standard bearer of the old, Traditional Catholic Church, which with Vatican II was vandalized and displaced (nearly wiped out) by Western influence, and whose old Mass today are now labeled labeled as, “Extra Ordinary”.
There are very, very few, aproximately fewer than 300 functioning old Traditional Catholic churches left in the United States.
The New Mass is un-affectionately labeled NO Mass-at-all. This term, “NO” is shorthand, for the *new* Novus Ordo Mass, which is the Ordinary Mass of the people.
Are there any coincidences?
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Not being a Catholic and as someone with very little background in Catholicism, I cannot reply as your post deserves. I come from a Protestant background and faith.
I have heard of the Fatima visions and did read briefly about them. I think your post is fascinating. The tie-in to Russia coming back to the faith is so interesting. The partial return to faith of Russia as a result of incomplete obedience - as I have seen it, those kinds of tragic results in faith are a part of all church history. Indeed, in our own lives.
I’m not sure I understood what you are saying about Germany. What I think I hear you saying is that we first had Nazi Germany, and now we’re seeing the rise of an Islamic Germany, both due to mishandling of the Fatima warning. Is that the correct understanding of what you said?
I think it is interesting that Africa is presently holding on to the traditions (right word?) of Catholicism. I don’t know why, but I have the image of HRC traveling there a while back. Here’s another area where I need help. I don’t know why she was there (probably not just a vacation - duh). Certainly to plunder the continent, but I wonder if there was more.
I remember attending a Mass a long time ago and not understanding a word because it was all in Latin. And then later on reading that conservative Catholics were upset with the loss of the Latin Mass. Although I cannot understand the depth of the loss, it does stun me to know there are only 300 such churches left.
Honestly, in our world so few of our American churches still follow their early traditions and beliefs. It seems that in all denominations, men have itching ears and want to have their appetites satisfied. Never mind what God says. The Ten Suggestions is the way to live. Good is bad and vice versa.
I appreciate you sharing this information; it will jog my mind, I’m sure, as I come across related materials.
Thank you