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Mushroom picker finds precious helmets from late Bronze Age [Slovakia]
Slovak Spectator ^ | September 18, 2018 | staff

Posted on 09/23/2018 3:39:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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21 posted on 09/23/2018 4:56:34 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor

An improvement. The photographer was emphasizing ‘drama’. But for information purposes I would have liked to see it isolated and lit better.


22 posted on 09/23/2018 4:58:05 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Well, there’s a big difference between showing off a recent discovery not yet fully examined and pieces that have been cleaned, documented and put on display. Doubt that the Slovakian museum has much of a budget. The press release might have been made in part to gather more financial support.

BTW, the choice of how to crop the site photo was mine, so... mea culpa. ;>)

Amazing what can be done on a droid phone very quickly.


23 posted on 09/23/2018 5:08:11 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: yarddog

Heck, even his wife was named Eileen


24 posted on 09/23/2018 5:09:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

I got it tho his real wife was named Olympias. She was Alexander’s Mother and a priestess of some weird snake cult.


25 posted on 09/23/2018 5:20:11 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
Not that there's anything wrong with that...….


26 posted on 09/23/2018 5:34:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Covenantor
Not blaming you.

I'm just forever frustrated by poorly shot photos.

Sometimes I wonder if people are actually looking at what they're photographing.

Then there's back lighting. People don't seem understand you shine the light ON the subject not behind it. Tired of seeing everything in silhouette or having to download the photo and adjust brightness and contrast see see any detail.

End of photo rant.

27 posted on 09/23/2018 5:40:30 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Nope, the multitudes of chopped off heads prove they don’t register what’s actually visible in the viewfinder.

;>)


28 posted on 09/23/2018 5:43:52 PM PDT by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: SunkenCiv

So cool. Thanks for posting.


29 posted on 09/23/2018 5:45:00 PM PDT by deadrock
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To: ckilmer

The Metropolitan Museum in NYC has a few Greek Bronze Age helmets in beautiful condition on display that could have been worn at the siege of Troy. The startling thing is that they would probably only fit a 7th grader today. Much of the other Greek armor in their collection from that period, grieves and the like, are about the same size. They were small back then. Another thing rather interesting are the body shapes of the warriors depicted on pottery from that era. Their hamstrings are developed far out of proportion to the rest of the body. This is a clue that speed in closing for a sharp attack, or sprinting away to evade one, was one of the most important assets for the ideal Argive.


30 posted on 09/23/2018 6:11:08 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: yarddog

Her original name was Myrtale. She started calling herself Olympias when she moved up the civilizational ladder from Epirus to Macedon.


31 posted on 09/23/2018 6:18:41 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Kindness and truth shall meet." Ps. 85:10)
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To: Tax-chick

Thanks for that info.

I was a Classics major and did not know that.


32 posted on 09/23/2018 6:23:22 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: PUGACHEV

as to size — you see the same small men in medieval armor. these guys were mostly five feet tall.

Inches have only been put on in the last 100 years.


33 posted on 09/23/2018 6:26:36 PM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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When I was a kid growing up in DeFuniak Springs, FL our city library had a huge collection of Scottish armor. I noticed that they must have been small people.

The swords on the other hand were huge. I thought they must have been really strong before I learned they were two handed.

Interestingly, William Wallace was 6’4”.


34 posted on 09/23/2018 6:43:51 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: ckilmer
Crested helmets were attributed to the Carians by Herodotus, and the Carians / Cretans / Caunians equated (same source). People on both sides probably used crested helmets, but there wasn't a standard uniform, which probably tended to result in "friendly fire" losses.

35 posted on 09/23/2018 10:49:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Beowulf9
Not sure it's in the excerpt above, but are conventionally dated "between the 12th and 10th century BC". Since these were not excavated by pros, there's probably no way to get a good date on them now using scientific dating of any kind.

36 posted on 09/23/2018 10:51:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: yesthatjallen
There's nothing wrong with the photo.

37 posted on 09/23/2018 10:51:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: BenLurkin; Does so
These are not Celtic, it's not likely the Celts wore anything like these, unless they got them in trade or took them off a dead guy. And if the conventional dating is correct, the Celts weren't yet in Europe; the Hallstatt culture is generally regarded as the classical era or "real" Celts. The Irish Book of Invasions records three prior layers of paint (as it were) in the British Isles. I watched a YT vid about Hallstatt culture princely tombs this morning sometime, can't remember the name, this may be similar -- Etruscan grave goods, Greek vase, along with other stuff acquired in trade, plus Celtic-worked gold items; there's a find from about mid-century, also in France I think, which had the largest surviving "vase".
Huge 2,500-Year-Old Tomb of Celtic Prince Unearthed In France

38 posted on 09/23/2018 11:04:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Covenantor

The slinkies are nice, those are also armor items.


39 posted on 09/23/2018 11:05:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting. Will have to look for that

For some reason, youtube seems to think I’m a teenage consumer of Kardashian level pop culture.


40 posted on 09/23/2018 11:11:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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